Engineers / Producers

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Sandy Pearlman. The "Space Team Electra" album he did a couple of years ago is one of the most mind blowing pieces of production/engineering I have heard in decades!!!!
 
chessrock said:
Easy. Nigel Godrich.

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I'll agree with this pretty much because of his Radiohead stuff. Nevermind the sparse clipping.... Albini would have to be my favorite overall going, but I wouldn't put him here cause his whole technique is based on complete sonic honesty. Rubin is a madman genius, but his stuff is pretty honest sounding to me as well (not that he doesn't get the greatest snare sound in the world). Oh, and forget the Metallica LP, does anyone know what happened to that Chili Peppers LP Rubin was doing almost live to 16 track analog? I swear I read that somewhere.
 
peopleperson said:
Rubin is a madman genius, but his stuff is pretty honest sounding to me as well (not that he doesn't get the greatest snare sound in the world). Oh, and forget the Metallica LP, does anyone know what happened to that Chili Peppers LP Rubin was doing almost live to 16 track analog? I swear I read that somewhere.
You say that like honesty is a bad thing. :)

The RHCP album is due out this year, though I don't know any details about it's production values. Rubin also has albums coming out this year by The Dixie Chicks and Justin Timberlake.

None of these artists are my cup of tea personally, but if producing the Chicks, the RHCP and Timberlake all in a single year isn't cross-genre, I don't know what is. ;)

G.
 
If Rick Ruban can save Metalllica from the awful mess they've become in the last 15 years, then he gets my vote.... we'll soon see!
 
That's the easiest question...fuck your Nigels and Ricks, screw your Bruces and Glens...we all know Simon Cowell is the greatest :)
 
SouthSIDE Glen said:
Rick Rubin.

G.

Surely you're joking. He is a name brand, hardly involved with the bands at all. Listen to the guitar work from SoaD and you'll hear he has stripped out all phase cross over leaving a tone that is high and dry.
 
I think Rick Rubin is more than a dude who records people. I've seen instances where he's brought the best out in people. I mean like Slipknot. yeah ok so I'm sure people have mixed opinions of that band, but... They were a fucking mess before they walked into his mansion. And he pushed and in the end they came out with the best record of their career. And he encouraged them to put their solos in, when on the previous releases solos were 'not allowed'. I guess Rubin could be seen as an artistic catalyst for many musicians he's recorded in a way. So I don't buy that he has no involvement in the bands at all.
 
kiwisdontdrinkt said:
Surely you're joking. He is a name brand

agreed, a name brand.
did you hear the last system album? the only way they could have turned the vox up more would be to throw out the music.....
and the vocals sucked (only partially his fault, he should have sent them back to the shed to write more)

he gets a awsome sound when handed an awesome band, but daring? no.
 
the real answer

this answer is abit late but hey!! i dont sit on my ass playing with a computer all day ,the best most ground breaking experimental producer out there is some kid you never heard of and will probabley never hear of (theres one in every town)they just dont have the bigwig conections. all of the name guys have their style but having borders(money/gear) forces people to be more creative .
 
kaminari13 said:
the best most ground breaking experimental producer out there is some kid you never heard of and will probabley never hear of (theres one in every town)they just dont have the bigwig conections. all of the name guys have their style but having borders(money/gear) forces people to be more creative .

There's probably more than a small grain of truth to that, I would imagine.

The same probably holds true for musicians, though, and just about any other art form. It kind of reminds me of a Wilco song called "Late Greats."

Late Greats
Wilco
(A Ghost Is Born)

The greatest lost track of all time:
The Late Greats' "Turpentine"
You can't hear it on the radio
You can't hear it anywhere you go

The best band will never get signed
K-Settes starring Butcher's Blind
Are so good, you won't ever know
They never even played a show
You can't hear 'em on the radio

The greatest singer in rock and roll
Would have to be Romeo
His vocal chords are made of gold
He just looks a little too old

The greatest lost track of all time:
The Late Greats' "Turpentine"
I can't hear it on the radio
I don't hear it anywhere I go

The best song will never get sung
The best life never leaves your lungs
So good, you won't ever know
I never hear it on the radio
Can't hear it on the radio
 
kiwisdontdrinkt said:
hardly involved with the bands at all.
And you accuse ME of joking? :) I suggest you read some of the inside stories of just how inolved he gets with his artists and architects out the details with them long before he hits the "Record" button.

I think the problem most people have with RR is that he tends to not let the artist's previous sound/mold influence his production design. He looks at the lyrics, listens to the chord progressions, etc. and then takes a creative path (with the cooperation of the artist) of his own design. If the Down recordings did not sound like something the Down would normally do, core Down fans could easily be disappointed. The same with many of his other productions: Scores of core Aerosmith fans thought having RunDMC basterdize "Walk This Way" was pure sacrilige. And having an old fogey like The Man in Black do a plugged-down version of a NIN tune (especially long before the whole Hollywood buzz fad over Johnny Cash started) had many Nails fans absolutely apoplectic. Yet both productions turned out to be almost instant classics that did not fit any standard mold of their time.

chessrock said:
It kind of reminds me of a Wilco song called "Late Greats."
Chess, my friend, you are getting downright upright and even sentimental in your posts lately. Are you feeling alright? Not that I'm complaining, mind you, it's actually positively refreshing. I just hope it's not because you're about to go supernova or something ;) :) :D.

G.
 
SouthSIDE Glen said:
Chess, my friend, you are getting downright upright and even sentimental in your posts lately. Are you feeling alright? Not that I'm complaining, mind you, it's actually positively refreshing.


I guess you didn't see that last post I just made in the mic forum. :D :eek:
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chessrock said:
I guess you didn't see that last post I just made in the mic forum. :D :eek:
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Nope. I quit the mic forum many many moons ago; nothing but bickering over which mic is better than another, which is about as ridiculous as bickering over which ice cream flavor is the best.

G.
 
I've very impressed with Darrell Thorp and Nigel Godrich's work on the Hail To The Thief album by Radiohead. Some of the things they did on this album sound very groundbreaking to me.
 
SouthSIDE Glen said:
If the Down recordings did not sound like something the Down would normally do, core Down fans could easily be disappointed.

above and beyone that, the cd was just bad..........
and i'm not allone on this, have you listened to it?
 
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