Editing Audio

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If I have a guitar line about 3 minutes long, somewhat repetitive. I want to Punch in a spot. I found 2 spots before and after that has a very small window of space. Set the punch record. Recorded. On playback theres a click on the in and out. I also tried creting a clip of the section where it was played correct in the 3 minutes. Pasted it in and still have the click. Is editing audio this hard. Any tricks how to rid of click. The overdub and paste both sound and timed great. Its just the dam clicks in and out. :mad: I've recorded in pro sutdios where the engineer Puched me in smaller places with success. Any ideas. Otherwise its time to practice more and get the 3 minutes in...thanks
 
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If I have a guitar line about 3 minutes long, somewhat repetitive. I want to Punch in a spot. I found 2 spots before and after that has a very small window of space. Set the punch record. Recorded. On playback theres a click on the in and out. I also tried creting a clip of the section where it was played correct in the 3 minutes. Pasted it in and still have the click. Is editing audio this hard. Any tricks how to rid of click. The overdub and paste both sound and timed great. Its just the dam clicks in and out. :mad: I've recorded in pro sutdios where the engineer Puched me in smaller places with success. Any ideas. Otherwise its time to practice more and get the 3 minutes in...thanks
When I've had a click like that, make th view really big, so the click takes up a great portion of the screen, and try to use a click and pop remover on the section.....affecting as little of the clip as possible. This usually works well for me.
 
You can also try checking the "snap to audio zero crossing" checkbox option in the Snap To Grid tool.

This will be helpful when you try and cut out a section to copy and paste.
 
definitely check the snap-to function...

also, when you are connecting 2 pieces of audio together (once spliced correctly), do a small (10 sample) crossfade between the 2 overlapped pieces (fade out first piece of audio, fade in 2nd overlapping each other).

the key here is to make the audio flow smoothly through the edit. It is also something that takes time and experience.

Note: once edited, solo the track and listen through the edit to make sure there are no clicks, and the pieces flow smoothly.
 
thanks guy.
dachay2tnr- it is clicked. Didnt seemed to help
EddieRay- I never tried that with a pop. When I got in deep in the wave it worked great for this edit without and big drop in volume which sometimes happens.
Dogman- Whats a pop and click remover. Software?

blueroommusic-I will remember that one. Makes sense.

thanks again-all great ideas and help
 
pop & click removers are software plug-ins...I use x-click which is part of the Waves Platinum Bundle. It works well, but mostly for any recording anomylies, such as digital clipping.

your best bet is to make the edit right, and not worry about the plug-in.


....and remember kids, crap in = crap out


(who the hell am I calling kids, i'm only 23)
 
pop & click removers are software plug-ins...I use x-click which is part of the Waves Platinum Bundle. It works well, but mostly for any recording anomylies, such as digital clipping; although it would work on a bad edit.

your best bet is to make the edit right, and not worry about the plug-in.


....and remember kids, crap in = crap out


(who the hell am I calling kids, i'm only 23)
 
Have you tried just manually slip editing the clip?

Blow it up and hover the cursor over the edge of the clip. Then just drag the edge back or forwards to the point where the waveform crosses zero
 
I'm certainly not an expert, but I was just in a PT session and saw that the engineer was doing exactly what blueroomusic was talking about with the crossfades. He was doing drum edits on a 3 minute song. It took him about 40 minutes to tweak the drums, but afterwards, it sounded perfect.
 
another easy way to create crossfades in is to zoom down to sample value right in between the 2 waveforms. If you drag one of the wave forms to overlap the other, it should automatically create a small crossfade for you. There might be an option in the Global or Project settings that makes this happen, but I can't remember...just try it.
 
Editing audio

Editing audio is not difficult; however you do need to know what, how and why you're editing. It's mostly time consuming. Here are a few things that you should keep in mind:
Zoom in as far as you can. Do things to the best of your ability; a mediocre job is never going to get you anywhere. Try to split always at the zero crossings (you can snap to zero crossings) and that will avoid clicks or pops.
Finally, you're editing audio, hence edit with your ears instead of with your eyes. The visual interface of Sonar is there to assist the audio part of it, not the other way around.

Carlos
 
Just needs practicing i guess. But I thought when you punch in a section it would be popless to begin with.
 
A combination of slip editing and a small fade in ( really small) will get rid of it.
 
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