JuliánFernández
2&4
Mshilarious, do you mind sharing your notes about my mix (hits and misses)? Maybe I can learn even more!
Mshilarious, do you mind sharing your notes about my mix (hits and misses)? Maybe I can learn even more!
Yea, like I said, sometimes I don't notice when I'm actually in the midst of a mix that I've gone too far. I don't know why, really....because it's always immediately obvious to me when I listen to the mix later. Ear fatigue or something, I guess....(I do monitor at 83 db, though).No, that track is not a 1. 5/6 or so. It's quite a lot different from your entry here. First off, you can just look at the wave and see some dynamics. Your mix contest entry was literally a big full scale block.
So you've got 3dB more dynamic range from the get-go, and that's a good thing.
Thanks! "Nice and ballsy" is exactly the sound I try to get during tracking for rock bands. I think there are actually like....12 guitar tracks in this song making that big ole' ballsy ass sound that bands like this love. Although... In my experience, bands with nicer equipment can get that big sound with maybe 2-8 tracks - depending on if they are playing more metal or just good old hard rock. These guys brought only one amp with them, and it's some POS Ibanez "Tone Blaster" or something.... "But it has to sound good, it says right in it's own name that it's a TONE BLASTER! - Plus it came with a free gift!"mshilarious said:OK, other good things . . . the guitar sounds nice and ballsy. I can tell you spent time on that!
mshilarious said:Now, the issues . . . not crazy about the drums. The kick is kinda papery. Find its fundamental--50 or 60Hz, usually--and boost that. The snare has that popcorn sound, but I don't think it's what you wanted here. Too much wire, not enough body.
mshilarious said:I didn't mind the vocal too much--I don't think it's a sibilance issue as much as just fighting for space in a mix that's VERY busy in the presence range. The vocal has that processed sound which I assume is what you were going for, and I don't mind it.
mshilarious said:Try this as an exercise, throw a 4kHz cut, fairly wide Q, about -3dB, on the stereo bus. Watch what happens to your master meter. Mine is now peaking at +2dB! Great example of what I was saying earlier--cuts can increase peak levels! So there is hidden dynamic range in that mix waiting to come out.
Now, turn off that bus EQ, and I think you might want to go back to the guitar track, and automate an EQ to pull back its presence during the vocals
Right now it sounds like you create a huge guitar sound and try to make the mix fit that, but you should try the other way around.
I didn't write down that much for you. I thought it was a good mix, vox were a little dry. Good scores, but I guess nothing really stood out. Not a lot to go on, sorry
After reading all this I can say that in the six years I've been here I think this is the best lowdown we've ever had. You da man! Thank you so much for taking the time out of your life and responding with such depth.Well, let's talk about punch/impact...
Mshilarious, do you mind sharing your notes about my mix (hits and misses)? Maybe I can learn even more!
Mshilarious, ditto!
I am thinking my vision of the song is different than your's, but I gotta know.
Thanks.
I like the bass but not the vocals. Overall thought it was smiley.
Please keep in mind I am just typing my notes, not listening to the track, so further interpretation will be difficult . . .
Well, I will post my results, with a few caveats:
I am not going to appoint a winner all by myself, so I took my list, broke it into thirds, and sorted within each third by name. So no, BushmasterM4 isn't necessarily the winner.
I also removed the Mix Quality rating, which is entirely subjective. It still counted for score in the top/middle/bottom thirds, but since you can't see it, you won't be able to derive a winner from the scores shown.
So, for what it's worth:
I haven't listened to your mix, but I'm guessing this is the reason for the 5 right here.
ecktronic, I think you might be a victim of the coarseness of the categories. I have in my notes that I thought your guitars were too crispy. That's not exactly air, but it isn't balance, as their volumes were good, and it wasn't punch . . . so you got dinged in air.
Anyway, you had a top mix, I wouldn't sweat the absolute score too much. Obviously I was in a bad mood
It's just a short snip of one track of an EP I am wrapping up today (for a paying client). Being in charge of tracking for this song, I was able to do everything the way I want:
Very odd sounding overall EQ balance. Straight away the drums at the start are very thin. Vocals sound nasely.
Yeah, a lot of scooped sounds I hear.
Sounds like a pretty decent mix could be made from the recordings, guitars have alot of potential IMO.
Eck
I read this thread a bit late and the contest is over I know, but I still wanted to download the mix files and give it a try myself, just for educational purposes. Where can I download these, the original link is "404"...
Thanks in advance.
Sorry, the tracks are no longer available. I do have some good news though. One of the band members contacted me, and wants the singer to finish the other four tracks. He also said that since they are just doing this to have a record of their time together, and not for commercial use, that I could use the tracks again!
They have 4 other songs, two of which I have heard with vocals and are better than this track IMHO, and two that I have not. One of the two tracks that I haven't heard with vox is my favorite w/o vox, and I am hoping it will be even better with Vox.
So keep an eye out in the clinic!