Does Anyone Own a Mackie CR-1604 ???

[BluMusic]

If so ... I am having the most difficult problem and I'm hoping you can help.

Hi Everybody ~ All I want to do is feed my outboard Reverb Unit into the Board and be able to adjust the level of effect to each channel seperately or eliminate it on any given channel if I want. According to Mackie Techs the only way to add Reverb is to patch it into an open channel or two if you want Stereo. That seems cRaZy that you must sacrifice two channels.

If you have this board and have an outboard effects unit, how is it patched in?

Thank You

 

[Cloneboy Studio]

There are two general ways to go about this:

1.) Assign the reverb to a buss, and route the outputs of the reverb to 2 channels (L and R). This is the normal way to do this.

2.) Assign the reverb to a buss and route the outputs of the reverb to 2 buss channels. (Not the typical way of doing things....)

I'm sure it's abundantly clear why people want 32, 48 or larger channel counts on their mixers now.

 

[BluMusic]

There are two general ways to go about this:

1.) Assign the reverb to a buss, and route the outputs of the reverb to 2 channels (L and R). This is the normal way to do this.

2.) Assign the reverb to a buss and route the outputs of the reverb to 2 buss channels. (Not the typical way of doing things....)

I'm sure it's abundantly clear why people want 32, 48 or larger channel counts on their mixers now.

Given I use method #1 - Will I then be able to increase on eliminate the effect to any given ch. ? Also, it seems I've done this in the past and for some reason the verb didn't map to Cubase when recording.

 

[MadAudio]

I'm not clear on what you're trying to do exactly.

Why not use the aux send/returns?

 

[BluMusic]

I'm not clear on what you're trying to do exactly.

Why not use the aux send/returns?

For some reason I can't seem to get any level of verb using that. When I called Mackie, they said pretty much the same thing CloneBoy said. I assigned it to the faders (1) and nothing. So Cloneboy's Option #1 is the only real way you can feed verb into this board.

 

[MadAudio]

For some reason I can't seem to get any level of verb using that. When I called Mackie, they said pretty much the same thing CloneBoy said. I assigned it to the faders (1) and nothing. So Cloneboy's Option #1 is the only real way you can feed verb into this board.

I still don't understand what your goal is, though.

Exactly which reverb unit are you using?

 

[BluMusic]

I still don't understand what your goal is, though.

Exactly which reverb unit are you using?

I have an M1 but really isn't important .. point is I've been totally frustrated with the inability to use my Aux Send/Return to simply add Verb to individual channels. I mean this is a basic function of pretty much every Board I've ever seen. Heck, my old Peavey road board had a feature where you could disable the inboard Reverb and add an OutBoard box to the Sends/Returns but the Mackie CR-1604 doesn't work that way. It doesn't give you control over the amount of Verb coming in even with the Aux Faders and for some reason doesn't go out the Main L/R unless I depress the Aux to Main button which eliminates my ability to monitor through Cans which I use 100% of the time during recording.

 

[dgatwood]

I have an M1 but really isn't important .. point is I've been totally frustrated with the inability to use my Aux Send/Return to simply add Verb to individual channels. I mean this is a basic function of pretty much every Board I've ever seen. Heck, my old Peavey road board had a feature where you could disable the inboard Reverb and add an OutBoard box to the Sends/Returns but the Mackie CR-1604 doesn't work that way. It doesn't give you control over the amount of Verb coming in even with the Aux Faders and for some reason doesn't go out the Main L/R unless I depress the Aux to Main button which eliminates my ability to monitor through Cans which I use 100% of the time during recording.

I can't imagine why the Mackie person said you had to dedicate a channel. That's not at all correct.

Method 1: Adding with an aux submix

Turn up the aux send pot on the channels you want to route out. Run the aux send output to the effects unit. Run the effects unit output back to the aux return. Make sure you turn up the master return levels. I think you may also have to depress the switch for the particular aux return to the right of the return knobs, but I'm not certain.

Method 2: Adding on individual channels

Get an adapter that adapts 1/4" stereo to two RCA connectors. Plug it into the punch in jack on an input channel. (Only the first 8 channels have a punch in jack. It's on the back unless you have a RotoPod.) One of those two RCA connectors is a send and the other is a return for that channel. I believe this punches into the channel pre-fader. I think this is what the Mackie person was trying to tell you to do.

Method 3: Adding with an alt preview submix

Mute each of the channels you want to run through the effects unit. Route the "Alt Preview" output to the inputs of the effects unit. Route the effects unit output back in through spare channels or an aux returns.

 

[BluMusic]

I can't imagine why the Mackie person said you had to dedicate a channel. That's not at all correct.

Method 1: Adding with an aux submix

Turn up the aux send pot on the channels you want to route out. Run the aux send output to the effects unit. Run the effects unit output back to the aux return. Make sure you turn up the master return levels. I think you may also have to depress the switch for the particular aux return to the right of the return knobs, but I'm not certain.

Method 2: Adding on individual channels

Get an adapter that adapts 1/4" stereo to two RCA connectors. Plug it into the punch in jack on an input channel. (Only the first 8 channels have a punch in jack. It's on the back unless you have a RotoPod.) One of those two RCA connectors is a send and the other is a return for that channel. I believe this punches into the channel pre-fader. I think this is what the Mackie person was trying to tell you to do.

Method 3: Adding with an alt preview submix

Mute each of the channels you want to run through the effects unit. Route the "Alt Preview" output to the inputs of the effects unit. Route the effects unit output back in through spare channels or an aux returns.

Ok Method #3 is what I have going on.

1. I have each instrument channel's MUTE down
2. Stereo Aux Returns Balance - I have Button 1 Depressed.
* However I can only pull the Level knobs to about +5 before I get feedback.
3. Alt Preview - Depressed
4. Maybe here lays the problem - I have my L/R into the Verb coming from Bus Insert Out L/R
5. Verb Outputs going into Alt Return L/R