Do you really buy that expensive recording software?

[bewildered]

lol, you dumbasses care about forum reputation. What a stupid system designed for everyone to manipulate eachother.

So businesses are buying up multiple licences of BFD drum software and Nuendo, and all the music CDs, and everyone's making tons of cash? What do they do with all the CDs and drum software? Why do they buy them?

uh, they buy them to use them. obviously you know nothing about how licensing works. Its one copy per computer "the legal way". Of course any business can buy one copy and load it on all the computers, but alot of corporations had gotten in trouble when they tried that with windows XP. I assume these giant recording companies have more than one computer.....

You are soooooooooooooooo clueless about the real world. Software is not simply information, it is intellectual property that cost real money to create, and when that investment is not returned because people STEAL it, the real people who created it lose their jobs and go home to thier real house payment and real mouths to feed with no money to make ends meet.

hahahaha, what a worse case scenario sob story. If you make at least $40,000 a year (even if your company goes under and you find a job elsewhere), your still in the top 1% of the world. $20,000 your still in the top 4%. Dont give me that woe is me bullshit. If you cant feed your kids in america you need to stop spending all your cash on gambling, drugs and hookers.

face it, the only people piracy hurts are the rich.

 

[Robert D]

lol, you dumbasses care about forum reputation. What a stupid system designed for everyone to manipulate eachother.



uh, they buy them to use them. obviously you know nothing about how licensing works. Its one copy per computer "the legal way". Of course any business can buy one copy and load it on all the computers, but alot of corporations had gotten in trouble when they tried that with windows XP. I assume these giant recording companies have more than one computer.....




hahahaha, what a worse case scenario sob story. If you make at least $40,000 a year (even if your company goes under and you find a job elsewhere), your still in the top 1% of the world. $20,000 your still in the top 4%. Dont give me that woe is me bullshit. If you cant feed your kids in america you need to stop spending all your cash on gambling, drugs and hookers.

face it, the only people piracy hurts are the rich.

There's no such thing as "giant recording companies" running hundreds or thousands of copies of recording software. Also, I've worked in the high tech industry since before the PC was invented, and I know plenty about how licensing works. Recording software is such a tiny little slice of the software market that every license counts in a very different way than something like business software.
So, do you tell the people you rob on the street at gunpoint not to give you their sob story, that they're still in the top 1% of the world?

 

[bewildered]

hey, guess what, no one cares what anyone elses thinks about piracy (especially what i think), and you know what, that works out cause piracy and freedom of information always wins in the end.

Watch out, that big scary technological revolution is happening before your very eyes.

 

[fraserhutch]

What a clueless moron.

hey, guess what, no one cares what anyone elses thinks about piracy (especially what i think), and you know what, that works out cause piracy and freedom of information always wins in the end.

Watch out, that big scary technological revolution is happening before your very eyes.

 

[mrbowes]

cause piracy and freedom of information always wins in the end

wins? wins what?

in the end, the software you are pirating will suffer because of your actions. therefore, although piracy "wins" (because it will always exist), the end user (i.e. you) will lose because the ramifications of pirating result in a lower quality product.

 

[Robert D]

You guys have been watching too many Jack Sparrow movies. In real history, pirates lose in the end, usually at the end of a rope. You know why? Because in real life people get hurt by piracy, and after a while something gets done about it.

 

[Toker41]

Pirates were "hired guns" employed by England to loot for the King. The King soon found that he could not control them, and they routinely became rouge. Thus, the Government started piracy, while claiming publicly to fight it. Just as today, any real efforts to fight it were only for public image.

 

[Monkey Allen]

Toker41 is right

 

[Reilley]

People rip off software for the same reason they rip off music, movies, etc,: because they can. If they could rip off their TV cable, electricity, water, telephone, rent, and groceries, they would do that too, and find a justification for it. There's nothing new or modern about the motivation.

 

[dkerwood]

People rip off software for the same reason they rip off music, movies, etc,: because they can. If they could rip off their TV cable, electricity, water, telephone, rent, and groceries, they would do that too, and find a justification for it. There's nothing new or modern about the motivation.

Actually, people have been ripping off cable TV for years, too.

 

[Robert D]

Pirates were "hired guns" employed by England to loot for the King. The King soon found that he could not control them, and they routinely became rouge. Thus, the Government started piracy, while claiming publicly to fight it. Just as today, any real efforts to fight it were only for public image.

Actually, you're referring to "Privateers", which is one small segment in the history of piracy, and which is predated by a long history of non "hired guns". This is one more example of taking a convienant fact that fits an argument and presenting it as the grand rationalization.

 

[dkerwood]

Woo hoo! Go grand rationalization!

 

[rfire]

Good Luck With That

So,,,,I suppose all you pirates out there dream that you can make a few bucks by selling music some fine day? Karma has to kick in somewhere. Usually, that kick lands just where you wish it wouldn't...

 

[dkerwood]

So,,,,I suppose all you pirates out there dream that you can make a few bucks by selling music some fine day? Karma has to kick in somewhere. Usually, that kick lands just where you wish it wouldn't...

First of all, Karma is bunk.

Secondly, I'd give some prudence to that if I ever start trying to sell homebrew CDs recorded in my basement on my pirated software. Luckily, though, the real product comes from the real studio, for which I pay real money.

Heck, if I want to download programs that no longer exist in the retail world, who am I hurting?

 

[Toker41]

Actually, you're referring to "Privateers", which is one small segment in the history of piracy, and which is predated by a long history of non "hired guns". This is one more example of taking a convenient fact that fits an argument and presenting it as the grand rationalization.

My example shows 2 things.

1. You can not invent, create, and use something expecting to cash in on it, knowing full well that of it's potential for bad in the wrong hands, and expect it can be controlled.

2. The Government that employed these "hired hands", certainly didn't mind using pirating when it was benefiting them. It was only considered wrong when it happened to them. Evil is a matter of perspective.

Everybody here has stolen something in their lives at some point. I would have to believe that nobody here really believes stealing isn't wrong. People that do it, know it's wrong. They just don't care. So lets ignore the moral part of the issuse.

Pirating is a convenient, and profitable tool for large software companies. It is an excuse to inflate prices on software. Studies show that most people that use pirated software would not have bought the product if they could not have obtained it for free. They are not losing as much money as you would be lead to believe. And before some software designer steps on on the soapbox, let me say that I'm sure it hurts small software companies to a degree. However, I sure would like to hear the opinion of a C.E.O. at a large software company for a change. Just don't see a whole lot of effort from major companies to stop it. No real financial investment. Hollywood stepped on DVD Xcopy. Even the music company sometimes puts forward a half baked effort by sometimes putting easily affordable anti pirating on a few CD's each year.
Microsoft has made XP pretty pirate proof. Technology is there. Gotta ask yourself why the lack of effort?

 

[Toker41]

So,,,,I suppose all you pirates out there dream that you can make a few bucks by selling music some fine day? Karma has to kick in somewhere. Usually, that kick lands just where you wish it wouldn't...

Why do you believe every thing is about money? I don't write, or record my music with any ambitions involving money.

 

[Reilley]

If it wasn't for the people who actually pay for software which other people develop, there wouldn't be any software for freeloaders to rip off.

 

[dkerwood]

If it wasn't for the people who actually pay for software which other people develop, there wouldn't be any software for freeloaders to rip off.

And we sure appreciate it!

 

[Mindset]

My example shows 2 things.

1. You can not invent, create, and use something expecting to cash in on it, knowing full well that of it's potential for bad in the wrong hands, and expect it can be controlled.

2. The Government that employed these "hired hands", certainly didn't mind using pirating when it was benefiting them. It was only considered wrong when it happened to them. Evil is a matter of perspective.

Everybody here has stolen something in their lives at some point. I would have to believe that nobody here really believes stealing isn't wrong. People that do it, know it's wrong. They just don't care. So lets ignore the moral part of the issuse.

Pirating is a convenient, and profitable tool for large software companies. It is an excuse to inflate prices on software. Studies show that most people that use pirated software would not have bought the product if they could not have obtained it for free. They are not losing as much money as you would be lead to believe. And before some software designer steps on on the soapbox, let me say that I'm sure it hurts small software companies to a degree. However, I sure would like to hear the opinion of a C.E.O. at a large software company for a change. Just don't see a whole lot of effort from major companies to stop it. No real financial investment. Hollywood stepped on DVD Xcopy. Even the music company sometimes puts forward a half baked effort by sometimes putting easily affordable anti pirating on a few CD's each year.
Microsoft has made XP pretty pirate proof. Technology is there. Gotta ask yourself why the lack of effort?

Microsoft doesn't have their stuff as "pirate proof" I know a LOT of people who use non-genuine "corporate" copies of XP, and various other microsoft products.

 

[Toker41]

To "Guess who". I'm on to you.