Do you really buy that expensive recording software?

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Do you buy that expensive recording software, or just download it?(Read authors post)

  • I buy it. I like to support the creator.

    Votes: 564 41.2%

  • I download it. To hell with the creator.

    Votes: 305 22.3%

  • I do both. I have mixed feelings on the subject.

    Votes: 501 36.6%
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I was reading back on page 20-something, and if this part of the argument came up already, I apologise - but I didn't feel like reading all 1500 posts in this thread to see :)

Someone commented on the fact that they downloaded the full software packages from a couple majors (Cubase, ProTools, etc), and then purchased the one they liked the best. They weren't satisfied with what the trial versions of these programs had to offer, so they temporarily ripped the full versions to try, and then bought the one they were most comfortable with.

Does this muster the same moral anger within you all that simply ripping and never paying does?

I've experienced the problem where the trial version doesn't give me the full experience, but trying out the fully featured version showed me how good the software could actually be.

So, I suppose if you try something for a few days and then delete it, and either buy a different piece of software you also 'sampled', or don't end up going with any of it, that I am not opposed. It is still technically illegal, as you are obtaining copyrighted software without the manufacturer's/distributor's consent, but I don't see anything morally unjust about it.

If anything, trying out the full versions might result in my giving money to a company that otherwise would have seen no profit from me. Now, if the company offers a trial version that is limited only by time, then for me it is unnecessary - I can simply utilize the fully-featured trial for the trial period, and buy when it expires if I am so inclined.

Not sure why most companies don't do that, either alongside or instead of allowing you to use a significantly dumbed-down version of the software forever. In my opinion, they should have both. If you want to spend as little money as possible, buy the cheap version without so many features - if you want to try the full version, get the 30 day trial, and buy if you like it.
 
Huh. I got neg rep'd for replying to a thread that is open - and in a forum :D

If they didn't want us to respond to it, why would they leave it open???

I'm so confused. :p
 
cusebassman said:
Someone commented on the fact that they downloaded the full software packages from a couple majors (Cubase, ProTools, etc), and then purchased the one they liked the best. They weren't satisfied with what the trial versions of these programs had to offer, so they temporarily ripped the full versions to try, and then bought the one they were most comfortable with.
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Does Steinberg even offer a demo version of Cubase?
 
therage! said:
Does Steinberg even offer a demo version of Cubase?
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Ya know, I don't think they do. The only reason I use LE is because it came with the Firepod. But, it would be cool if they (and the other big contenders in the multitrack recording software biz) offered a 10-30 day trial, just so you coudl figure out if you do or do not like their interface (I say interface because the underlying workings of all the software is pretty close to the same, I'd imagine - different ways of processing the same information).
 
cusebassman said:
Ya know, I don't think they do. The only reason I use LE is because it came with the Firepod. But, it would be cool if they (and the other big contenders in the multitrack recording software biz) offered a 10-30 day trial, just so you coudl figure out if you do or do not like their interface (I say interface because the underlying workings of all the software is pretty close to the same, I'd imagine - different ways of processing the same information).
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I've checked at Steinberg and can't find anything. I know Cubase 4 uses a dongle. I've got interest in the new Yamaha mixer coming out that integrates with Cubase so I'd like to check out a demo...but no/:mad:
 
Is this the record for the longest thread? Anyways...... I never have used illegally obtained software. Sometimes I blow all of my paycheck (except for bill money of course) on music software and gear, but I am like 99.9% sure that everybody here has at least 1 "illegal" software or mp3 on their computers. Sad but true. That's just the society we live in. Next..........
 
rockabilly1955 said:
Is this the record for the longest thread? Anyways...... I never have used illegally obtained software. Sometimes I blow all of my paycheck (except for bill money of course) on music software and gear, but I am like 99.9% sure that everybody here has at least 1 "illegal" software or mp3 on their computers. Sad but true. That's just the society we live in. Next..........
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:eek::eek::eek: I wouldn't dare download illeg...

moving on.

I think the DAW users with ADD thread is much, much longer than this one (over in the cave). But how dare you respond to an open thread on a forum. Jackass :p
 
A few Mac-driven programs will have software that can really harm your harddrive system if you run a cracked version of them, not only will a few things not work.

I havent came across this happening but it's damn sure believable.

I got used to using Cubase LE with my firepod and I'm spending like $200 on the upgrade to a better version OR Logic express.

Not only is it VERY hard to find cracked software that works(Demonoid and oink-the BIGGEST two torrent sites you'll find got shut down a month ago.) It'll also have missing pieces to them.

can always use reaper.
 
hahaha this thread is BAAAaaack. bwahahaha. Time for some entertainment. Everyone get your boxing gloves on.

--disclaimer...I try then BUY... with emphasis on BUY..so before all you self righteous pests start in...FUCK OFF--

I don't think there are any particular cracked mac programs that will harm your computer. It's really difficult to fuck up a mac system in any harmful, or unfixable way. It's theoretically possible, just as you could screw up any system, but there doesn't seem to be much in the way of anything like that on the mac side of the fence. Just always be sure to repair your permissions regularly, and periodically (esp after restarting after a power outage or having to force restart) reboot your computer...hold down apple+s then when all the texty shit finishes spitting out unix level BS, type fsck -fy and then enter wait for it to finish and type reboot. (this basically does what disk utility does to check and repair your file system of your boot drive) I find a lot of problems are based on either permissions gone awry or file system issues.

There are sites out there for audio specific downloads ;) ;) something with an audio something with torrents or so I'm told... maybe some "news" in there somewhere*hint*... they're out there. Do, buy if you like that stuff whenever you can afford it though, software developers have to eat somehow (unless they're adobe bahaha) and if nobody bought any software, there wouldn't be any software to use.

Checked out reaper for mac, but it's fairly unusable so far (the developer even admits to that)... I'd be interested to see what it's like when it's closer to a real version. People seem to go bat shit over it, so I'm curious (either that or reaper has all their friends go on forums and hype it, which wouldn't surprise me lol)

I'd recommend logic, personally, just because it's so nice for my needs. Also, you do get a bit of an advantage, since it's the same people who make the OS, it's updated blazingly fast (usually beforehand) to any OS X updates, etc... and I do find apple is surprisingly responsive to their user base. I'm sure that the developers from time to time check out BBSes to see what people are talking about with Logic for ideas of what to change, or add. Expect the learning curve with logic to be very steep (it's a monster of a piece of software) and also don't expect it to be bug free ;) Logic 8 is awesome but still has some bugs that need to be eliminated.
 
Of course all the Sony software (formerly Sonic Foundry) can be downloaded for free and then you just get a key generator from Limewire and Viola the full version straight from the source. I don't condone this of course other than for testing/educational purposes. I WILL buy Sound Forge before I use it in any commercial fashion.
Music on the other hand is a different story. I think musicians should make their living from performing not from selling records. Sure sell your CDs for $4-5 a piece to cover your cost and make a little dough and I don't have aproblem with outlawing sales of pirated goods, but if someone downloads your song for free you just got a new fan who will potentially goto your concert. There's absolutly no reason a musician should be a multimillionaire.
 
Plenty of reason a musician should be a multi millionaire. However, in the past they have made very little on album sales. It's nice to see the record companies that have lived high on the hog are now making very little on record sales. This makes for a more level playing field on the musicians end.
 
I couldn't agree more. As far as music piracy, it's not provable, but probably does effect actual cd sales...so....the market has changed...get with it or die..that's business. Am I doing wrong because I make my own wine, and not buy it for astronomical price at the liquor store? Should they go around suing home winemakers for perceived lost revenue?
 
Sorry Terra but that's a pretty poor analogy.

There's a difference between making your own wine, and taking someone else's music that they made.

Downloading music on the internet for free is like accepting stolen goods. I know that seems like an overly-harsh way of putting it, and I wouldn't say it's nearly as bad, but it is what it is. Receiving something for free that isn't free.

With that said, the music industry should have known what they were getting into as soon as music was put in digital form and computers came with CD-ROM drives. You can't make a product that can be easily stolen/distributed and then complain about a loss of sales. But it doesn't change the fact that it's stealing, and "wrong" if you have any sort of ethics.

I don't download software or stuff because I'd feel shitty about it. Stealing is poor character if nothing else.
 
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