Do they make such a cable ??

[TascamJimi]

Hey folks, back again with another silly question. Do they make a male stereo 1/8 mini (3.5mm ) to dual male 1/4 cable that is stereo on the 1/4 end and not dual mono ?? I thought I read somewhere it's called a ' summoning' cable that deals with resistors etc....but can't seem to find anything....Maybe I was dreaming. I bought what I thought was the above, but both 1/4 plugs carry the same mono single. I'm looking for one 1/4 to carry the left, and one 1/4 to carry the right .

The reason I'm asking is two-fold:

1. I'd like to be able to pull a stereo single off my phone into my DP-02 in case I want to record some sound effects ( in stereo ) of the internet etc,,,
2. I'd like to try running a full 8 track mix out of the DP-02, into my Zoom H2N, then back into 2 tracks of the DP-02. The H2N has an 1/8 9 3.5mm ) stereo out.

I'm good with a soldering iron so I could easily make my own if I could find a schematic.

This is the one I purchased, but again, it's dual mono on the 1/4 inch side......need stereo

3.5mm 1/8" TRS to Dual 6.35mm 1/4" TS Mono Stereo Y-Cable Splitter Cord [5FT] | eBay

3.5mm 1/8" TRS Stereo to Dual 6.35mm 1/4" TS Mono Y-Splitter Cord Adapter Cable. 3.5mm 1/8" TRS to Double 6.35mm 1/4" TS Mono Stereo Y-Splitter Cable for Speaker. Cable length: 5ft (1.5m). Connector B: 2x male mono 6.35mm.

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I hope this all makes sense !!

Jim

 

[DM60]

I think you have what you need. One end is stereo and that is split for left channel/right channel. When they are split, they are considered mono aka not stereo each.

 

[Papanate]

I'm good with a soldering iron so I could easily make my own if I could find a schematic.

A Hosa Y C able 1/4 in TRS to Dual 1/4 in TRS - and an Adaptor.

 

[Steenamaroo]

I think you have what you need. One end is stereo and that is split for left channel/right channel. When they are split, they are considered mono aka not stereo each.

+1. Assuming it's wired correctly, what you bought is what you need.

"1/4 cable that is stereo on the 1/4 end and not dual mono"
Not sure what you mean by that. The layout is as follows...


1/8" TRS - plugged into a stereo output.
Tip - Left
Ring - Right
Shield - Ground.

2 X 1/4" TS - each plugged into a mono input.
Tip - Left
Shield - Ground
and
Tip - Right
Shield - Ground.

If you have a multimeter you could confirm your cable is wired correctly, following that ^.

 

[Farview]

You are not looking for a summing cable.

You are looking for a stereo breakout or an insert cable with 1/8 TRS to two 1/4 TS.

 

[TascamJimi]

Thanks so much for the replies and PATIENCE !!! What's happening with the above cable, is the two 1/4 inch plugs are receiving the same signal. If I cue up Van Halen on my phone, Eddie is hard left, and Michael is hard right. But when I plug those 1/4 plugs into tracks 1 and 2, I get a mono signal on both with no stereo spread on the 2 input channels. I want what's on the left to stay on the left, ( track 1 ) and what's on the right to stay on the right ( track 2 ) I should read up a little on TR vs TRS jacks and plugs as it might help understand what's going on....
Again THANK YOU for being patient with all the silly questions I've been asking.

 

[Steenamaroo]

The cable you have really should be what you need.

Try just plugging in just one of the 1/4" cables, with a very obvious stereo track like you describe.

If Eddie, or Michael, disappears then you're getting left and right separately but just not panning them apart at the input device.

If you still hear everything, then most likely that cable isn't wired as I described - The way one would expect it to be wired.

 

[Slouching Raymond]

I tried to grasp what you're after, but am still confused.

Reading your last post, TascamJimi, I think you just need to use the pan knobs to pan to pan Eddie left, and Michael Right.

 

[Papanate]

Thanks so much for the replies and PATIENCE !!! What's happening with the above cable, is the two 1/4 inch plugs are receiving the same signal. If I cue up Van Halen on my phone, Eddie is hard left, and Michael is hard right. But when I plug those 1/4 plugs into tracks 1 and 2, I get a mono signal on both with no stereo spread on the 2 input channels. I want what's on the left to stay on the left, ( track 1 ) and what's on the right to stay on the right ( track 2 ) I should read up a little on TR vs TRS jacks and plugs as it might help understand what's going on....
Again THANK YOU for being patient with all the silly questions I've been asking.

What are you using for Playback? IOWs what is the two mono cables plugging into? If it’s a Mixer - then are you panning hard right and left on the two channels? if it’s something else is there a Mono switch on it? For example my headphone amp can sum to mono or stereo.

 

[TascamJimi]

Now this is getting stranger and stranger.... Thinking it's not a cable issue after all.... @Steenamaroo , I tried what you suggestion and it worked as far as plugging one cable in at a time. With just one in, I indeed got one side of the stereo split, disconnected it, hooked up the other and yep, got the other side of the spectrum. BUT, when I plug them both in at the same time, record a bit, I get same thing on both tracks no matter if I pan hard left and hard right. I recorded in both the mono and stereo settings on the input mode DP-02 Same result. I'm thinking I might be missing something with the recorder but dang.... I'm stumped...
@Slouching Raymond , There are times when I hear some cool effect, or thunderstorm stuff on Youtube , or any device with a stereo 1/8 out, that I'd like to be able to bring into my Tascam ....in stereo...
@Papanate I'm just using the headphone jack on the Tascam, The only way I thought I could pan the inputs is in 'stereo' input mode, but it didn't make any difference what position the switch is in. Upon playback there's no difference panning left and right no matter if the input was in stereo or mono mode.
I apologize again for confusing the heck out of everyone...... Still learning this machine..... I will say the 488MKII I used years ago was a lot easier..... but digital is much better when you bounce , RW and FF as much as I do..... :O)

 

[rob aylestone]

I think what is happening is you have lost the ground connection somehow? If eddie is left and the other right, then you hear them both, you are hearing the difference of the two. Anything in the middle is being cancelled out, but anything left or right is added together. Quite how this is happening is difficult to see, but losing the ground is commonly the cause. Something people often do deliberately. How it happens just plugging two cables in is a tricky one.

 

[bouldersoundguy]

Now this is getting stranger and stranger.... Thinking it's not a cable issue after all.... @Steenamaroo , I tried what you suggestion and it worked as far as plugging one cable in at a time. With just one in, I indeed got one side of the stereo split,

Are you hearing it on only one side, or are you getting one channel of the stereo but from both speakers (or both ears if in headphones)?

 

[Steenamaroo]

Now this is getting stranger and stranger.... Thinking it's not a cable issue after all.... @Steenamaroo , I tried what you suggestion and it worked as far as plugging one cable in at a time. With just one in, I indeed got one side of the stereo split, disconnected it, hooked up the other and yep, got the other side of the spectrum. BUT, when I plug them both in at the same time, record a bit, I get same thing on both tracks no matter if I pan hard left and hard right. I recorded in both the mono and stereo settings on the input mode DP-02 Same result. I'm thinking I might be missing something with the recorder but dang.... I'm stumped...
@Slouching Raymond , There are times when I hear some cool effect, or thunderstorm stuff on Youtube , or any device with a stereo 1/8 out, that I'd like to be able to bring into my Tascam ....in stereo...
@Papanate I'm just using the headphone jack on the Tascam, The only way I thought I could pan the inputs is in 'stereo' input mode, but it didn't make any difference what position the switch is in. Upon playback there's no difference panning left and right no matter if the input was in stereo or mono mode.
I apologize again for confusing the heck out of everyone...... Still learning this machine..... I will say the 488MKII I used years ago was a lot easier..... but digital is much better when you bounce , RW and FF as much as I do..... :O)

No need to be sorry.
From your confirmation it sounds like the cable is just fine.
You can prove that further later, if needed, but, for now, let's say it's fine.

My guess is your recording input setup might not be correct.
I'm not familiar with your recording device but it looks like you should be plugging in to 1/4" input A and input B on the back, (not return L/R)
then setting the pan knobs for channels 1+2 hard left and hard right.

You should then be able to test, plugging one of the cables in to input A, then B, you should hear Eddie in the left then Eddie in the right,
then the same test with the other cable should give the same result but with Michael.

Then, of course, plugging both in should give the regular stereo image that you're expecting.

 

[ecc83]

A Hosa Y C able 1/4 in TRS to Dual 1/4 in TRS - and an Adaptor.

Yes, as far as I understand things, that^ is what OP needs. A stereo splitter. Personally I would chop the single TRS plug off and replace it with a 3.5mm TRS plug? The weight of adapter,cable and plug can bugger a TRS socket....feeble fekkers at the best of times! But I hope his eyes are a LOT better than mine are now. An alternative is a 3.5mm TRS plug to 1/4" TRS line socket adapter.

BTW Be wary of plugging TS plugs into stereo sources? (or indeed 'symmetrical' balanced outs)? You probably won't damage a modern amp driving the ring circuit which is thus shorted but you can inject clipped 'hash' into the tip signal.

Dave.

 

[TascamJimi]

@robaylestone Winner-Winner. Returned to work today after the holiday. Brought the cable to a guy there that knows a lot about this stuff, He found that there IS indeed a ground issue in the cable. As a guitar maker, I've always liked bad grounds with noise... never dreamt it could cause THIS kind of problem...pretty crazy.... anyway......It's sitting in the recycle bin now. Can't even take the ends off.... got what I paid for !!! Anyhow... before I order another cable I'm going to ask for some advice first this time. @ecc83 , is it imperative that the 1/4 plugs are TRS ? Can't seem to find one that the 1/4 ends are TRS. I'm perfectly capable of cutting off and re-soldering a 1/8 TRS to the above cable ( pictures with the adaptor ) if it's crucial to have TRS plugs throughout. This is the replacement I'm considering if not. Feeling anxious ordering the same style cable that didn't work the first time... but the cable was faulty so I shouldn't worry but.....
I can't thank everyone enough for your patience and advice in trying to work me through this ! A lot has changed since I left this hobby 20 years ago that's for sure !! This is a great site with so many great people helping each other... THANK YOU !!!!

3ft Stereo Breakout Cable, 3.5mm TRS Stereo Male to Dual 1/4" TS Mono Male | eBay

Our extended 3.5mm plug also allows you to connect to your phone or tablet without having to remove it from it's case or sleeve. Length: 3ft. Tough PVC exterior.

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[TascamJimi]

You are not looking for a summing cable.

You are looking for a stereo breakout or an insert cable with 1/8 TRS to two 1/4 TS.

Exactly what I'm looking into. Just making sure the 1/4 ends don't have to be TRS . Thank you for your input !!!

 

[RFR]

3ft Stereo Breakout Cable, 3.5mm TRS Stereo Male to Dual 1/4" TS Mono Male | eBay

Our extended 3.5mm plug also allows you to connect to your phone or tablet without having to remove it from it's case or sleeve. Length: 3ft. Tough PVC exterior.

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This is the cable type you want. I’d go with a Hosa rather than just buying any ‘Amazon type’ that’s cheap.

 

[TalismanRich]

FWIW, I have gotten a few PigHog cables and they are pretty high quality, I liked them better than the Hosa ones I've bought.

 

[RFR]

FWIW, I have gotten a few PigHog cables and they are pretty high quality, I liked them better than the Hosa ones I've bought.

Not familiar with that brand. New maker?
I know there’s much better cables available, but Hosa has always been a consistent brand. Not the greatest, but not junk.

 

[TascamJimi]

Just ordered another. I went with the PigHog only because I've seen a couple of there cords and at least they look like a quality build so I feel good reading @TalismanRich comment !!! I'll be sure to check back here with the results.