DM24 Talkback

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Hello All,
How do I get the talkback function for the DM24 to work? Do I have to assign a output or something? I have been reading the manual and I still cant seem to get it to work.

Thanks

Malcolm
 
I am at work right now but tomorrow I will review what I did to get mine working. I have been running my board for two years
now so I have not had to dig around much being that its all set up the way I like it.
What are you recording to?
 
I am recording to Sonar Xl 2.2 via a motu 2408.

I also have a question about the effects.

I will post a question that I asked in the DM24 users group on another site for you to look at.

Thanks

Malcolm
 
Here is my Effects question

Originally posted on another site, but here is the question I was asking. I am still working with it. Thanks


The other day I finally figured out how to setup the
internal effects for the DM24. At first I had the effects configured
to come out through the stereo channels. then I found out where I
could assign the effects to say Aux 1-2 (stereo) and control them
seperately from each channel. Now I cannot get the effects for any
channels unless I switch them back to stereo which is not what I
want. I want to be able to go to seperate channels and control how
much of a effect would have by say using the Aux 1-2 setting from the
Aux tab. Unless there is a better way. In other words,, how do I
configure the effects for seperate channels on the DM24?
 
Sorry for taking so long getting back to you, I have a major cold.
and I hve spent the weekend in bed watching football.

So I am not sure if you are using a head phone preamp for the head sets so if you are you will need a quater inch cable to RCA
pluged into the studio outputs on the top of the board, then you need to press the shift key then the Moniter key #6, on the right side of this page you will see studio setup this allows you to deside what the listener with the head set hears, so if you are doing a sub mix for the musician normally using AUX 1+2, then press the circle next to 1+2 that way when your on the board switching between control room select buttons to listen to your recording mix and switching to the sub mix the user with the head set will only hear the sub mix. also the T/B level nob on the top of the board will need to be adjusted for volume.
also after pressing the monitor key on the left side you will see control room select, you should probably set the select 1 key to AUX 1+2) and the select 3 key to (2 track analog) this way if your recording using a sub mix you can switch between select Aux 1+2 and and Main mix and then also you can bring your cd recorder or something into the RCA 2 track in's on the top of the board.

Now if you are just planing on using the phone jacks at the top of the board and thats what you want to use the talk back button for this is a bit differant.
The only way I know of to do this is by using the (to Slate button)
on the top of the board. First press the shift key then Moniter key
under studio setup press the circle next to control room, then press the OSC/COM button then press Int-Tb mic and or if your using Aux 1+2 then also press Aux 1+2 and ST-LR, Remember to set the T/B volume level nob on the top of the board for your talk back level. the To Slate button will be your talk back button.

If you dont have a head phone preamp there pretty inexpensive.
the Sampson Q5 is under $150 and the Behringer ones are under
$100, only if you feel you need it other wise the slate option should work just fine.

I will get back to you on your Effects question. I hope this info is written so you can figure it out. I will check in to see if you need better info.
Good luck
 
Ok,,

I gotcha, I will try it this evening. And yes I want to use the talkback function while tracking using headphones. I have a OZ Audio Muti Channel Headphone amp. I feed it from one of the headphone outputs at the top of the mixer.

Basically I want to be tracking and use the t/B button to talk to whoever has the headphones on.


Im still working with the effects though. I can only get them to work with the stereo out. I once had them working with Aux 1-2 for effects1 and Aux 3-4 for effects2 for seperate channels.

BTW,, The manual sucks when it comes to specifics.


Thanks

Malcolm
 
that was quick.
If you do have the head phone amp then I would go into RCA studio outputs this will make it a lot more easy. but then again the slate button works fine I tried it last night so I would know what I was talking about.

as for the effects, I need to see my board so I can explain it better. I have 2 out board effects running in and I use the in board effects, so I could end up telling you more then you really need. so later today I will check it out.
 
MarkoPolo said:
that was quick.
If you do have the head phone amp then I would go into RCA studio outputs this will make it a lot more easy. but then again the slate button works fine I tried it last night so I would know what I was talking about.

as for the effects, I need to see my board so I can explain it better. I have 2 out board effects running in and I use the in board effects, so I could end up telling you more then you really need. so later today I will check it out.
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OK Thanks Man, I will check on the RCA out to Headphone amp setup. Im thinking that it shouldnt be any different from just the DM24 headphone output,, but hey,,,, this board is just too damn routable. LOL

You pretty much have to build your setup environment from the ground up. The TMD4000 was a little more straight to the point tho,, but no where near as flexible.

Thanks

Malcolm
 
I agree this is a very complex board it took me two months of down time to figure it out to the point where I wouldnt be wasting the clients time.

as far as the head phone jacks on the front they are used mainly for the engineer to use as refrence, I tried to get the talk back button to work through that to no avail. In the mannual it does say to use the studio outputs for your head phone amp.
But the slate key is just another talk back key that is able to route
through the phone jacks.
but if I am wrong and you find a way to use the talk back button through the phone jacks let me know, I love knowing all the ins and outs.
 
MarkoPolo said:
I agree this is a very complex board it took me two months of down time to figure it out to the point where I wouldnt be wasting the clients time.

as far as the head phone jacks on the front they are used mainly for the engineer to use as refrence, I tried to get the talk back button to work through that to no avail. In the mannual it does say to use the studio outputs for your head phone amp.
But the slate key is just another talk back key that is able to route
through the phone jacks.
but if I am wrong and you find a way to use the talk back button through the phone jacks let me know, I love knowing all the ins and outs.
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LOL

I guess that explains why I couldnt get any signal from the headphone amp. I will use the RCA stereo out tonight. I was gonna use those for another set of budget monitors that I have for different tastes, but I could use my patch panel to get the Stereo outs to work for both.

BTW,, To hell with Tascam by taking down the forum. Im sure all of this has been covered. Lets just build this one up. There is also 2 more sites I use but they are pretty slow. PM me and I will give you their names for I do not want to promote another site in HR.

Malcolm
 
This is going to be a lot of info and will probably leed you to more questions regarding effects.
The way I will tell you is so you can use the same inboard effect on as many ch's as you want. So here goes starting with pushing shift then IO button #2. go to ch 17-32 section.
Then assign ch 25 to EFF 1L. assign ch 26 to EFF 1R. then assign ch 27 EFF 2L. then assign ch28 EFF 2R. this will help so when you want the effects stereo or mono you will have the choice. allso make sure on that IO screen that its in imput mode not return.
next you will need to bring up channels 25 thru 28 to about 0db's on the board in normal mode using the module button on the upper left hand side of the board useing the faders.
go to link group button #5, hit ST link and make sure aux 3+4 are not linked together.
but if you use the effects in stereo then do link them together.
Now push the effects button then push Patch.
one way to do this is (there are many ways) Assign Effect 1 to aux 3 push the intype mono.
then assign effect 2 aux 4 and push the intype mono. Mode should be loop insert
Now two ways of getting your effects heard is (A) push the Aux 3+4 BUTTON, then lift the ch fader level of the channel your using to the desired effect level.
(B) my favorite, hit the module button then then press aux now you should see aux 3+4 on the screen just adjust the levels how ever you like.
last but not least, this is just one of many configurations but its an easy one that should be a start for you untill you know your way around the board better.
If you need more input just ask.
Good luck from the man of a thousand type hits. Long winded or what?
 
OK,

I didnt make it to the studio today. Iwill tomorrow thought, but Thats close to what I have. I think im missing the Aux configs for the I/O setup. I think I have 25-26 and 27-28 set for Aux instead of Effect 1etc.


I will check it tomorrow .


Thanks for all the info man. I generally spend time trying to figure stuff out before I ask questions, but this one had me beat.

Malcolm
 
If your using outboard effects thats pretty easy to set up. if you need help all be checking in.
Take it easy.
 
I am bumping this for a person that has some questions that
can probably be answered in this post.
 
MarkoPolo said:
Sorry for taking so long getting back to you, I have a major cold.
and I hve spent the weekend in bed watching football.

So I am not sure if you are using a head phone preamp for the head sets so if you are you will need a quater inch cable to RCA
pluged into the studio outputs on the top of the board, then you need to press the shift key then the Moniter key #6, on the right side of this page you will see studio setup this allows you to deside what the listener with the head set hears, so if you are doing a sub mix for the musician normally using AUX 1+2, then press the circle next to 1+2 that way when your on the board switching between control room select buttons to listen to your recording mix and switching to the sub mix the user with the head set will only hear the sub mix. also the T/B level nob on the top of the board will need to be adjusted for volume.
also after pressing the monitor key on the left side you will see control room select, you should probably set the select 1 key to AUX 1+2) and the select 3 key to (2 track analog) this way if your recording using a sub mix you can switch between select Aux 1+2 and and Main mix and then also you can bring your cd recorder or something into the RCA 2 track in's on the top of the board.

Now if you are just planing on using the phone jacks at the top of the board and thats what you want to use the talk back button for this is a bit differant.
The only way I know of to do this is by using the (to Slate button)
on the top of the board. First press the shift key then Moniter key
under studio setup press the circle next to control room, then press the OSC/COM button then press Int-Tb mic and or if your using Aux 1+2 then also press Aux 1+2 and ST-LR, Remember to set the T/B volume level nob on the top of the board for your talk back level. the To Slate button will be your talk back button.

If you dont have a head phone preamp there pretty inexpensive.
the Sampson Q5 is under $150 and the Behringer ones are under
$100, only if you feel you need it other wise the slate option should work just fine.

I will get back to you on your Effects question. I hope this info is written so you can figure it out. I will check in to see if you need better info.
Good luck
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Well Im back again, I had the same problem with the effects tonight. They were wroking just fine , but I had a session last night and noticed a huge low end build up when doing track playbacks. So I was in a crunch and the only way I could kill the build up was by turning the phatom off on my tube mic. Anyway, after I figured out that problem which was I had a M/L (input) for bass Direct in on channel 9 but using channel 2 for recording by rerouting channel 9 to channel 2 by the i/o screen. Well I fixed that but after the fact I lost my effects again for seperate channels. Right now the only way I can get the effects to work is by using the patch setting ans setting it for stereo. I saved the snapshot for a track and but I noticed that the I/O box was checked for the library store. It's been fine for months but now I may have chnaged some things. I just spent about 2.5 hours mssing with it but had to leave. I will read the manual for once today. I have only glanced at it because I knew the TMD4000 so well. My last setting was Effects 1 on Aux 1-2 channel 25,26 then Effects 2 on 26 27,,, channeld that is. I think becuase I save that last snapshot with the i/o box check,, it may have reset the thing. It was pissing me off. Should that box be checked when I save a snapshot? I really need to read the manual, but Tascam manuals suck!! Why do the effects only work for stereo? Im lost or maybe I need to initialize the board for once. I dont even know my software version.

Help Please

Malcolm
 
Never mind guys. I figured it out. Simple operator goof up.

I will explain later.


Malcolm
 
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