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brzilian said:
There is still heat buildup withing the mixers. Heat rises. I have designed and built my share of furniture/cabinetry for computer kiosks as well as home entertainment centers - you will run into issues eventually.
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brzilian,

If you go back towards the top to item #5 you will see that the bottom side of his "desk" surface is open in the center, which is more than enough cooling for these mixers. I have a Mackie 32x8 (which looks amazingly like these Behry's) and the mixer itself only has a barely noticeable heat buildup on the top surface of the mixer (between the knobs, in open air). It is so slight that I seriously doubt it is more than 5 degrees above ambient. The back and bottom sides stay at room temperature. The external power supply is where the heat gets emitted.

PK1 - Great job on your construction. My desk looks home-made, but yours looks like a class act. Keep it up :D

Darryl.....
 
sorry for the rant... bit of a crappy day here it was raining so i couldnt get on with the desk..

yes the behrys look like the mackie simply because it was the one that they copied.. there was a legal battle between mackie and behriger a few years back.. no winner but things were sorted out no more mx8000a but the newer 9000 came out instead..

as for making these.. damn anyone can make one and i mean anyone, you just need to know your basic desk size and a few other things... if you need help or info on making one all you gotta do is ask me.. i cant sell them as a mass produced item but i am going to be making a newer version after this one so it will be up for sale.. price£250 thats it... if your in the U.S i can supply plans but i aint shipping it!! im in the uk and it would cost a fortune.. :eek:

not much to do really now, the rack insert unit, the armrest and the end panels... then the finish not sure how im going to finish it yet but you will be the first to see....
 
I'm sorry I missed this thread until now... I've been doing other less important things LMAO.

Anyway, nice show PK1, I like how your desk is coming out. Though you should have used steel :-D

Just kidding... seriously, VERY nice job on your console desk...
 
Stainless diamond plate just makes everything look bosser, doesn't it??? :D
 
he he he .. amercian chopper..

tell you what i love that programme here in the uk and i also love that american hotrod with boyd coddington and his crew..

but then i love anything thats being built or made... i have a gift for reverse engineering i can reverse a construction just by looking at it for a while.. bit of a good thing really for me :D

but yea gotta love them teatuls.... if thats how you spell it.. :rolleyes:
 
pk1 said:
sorry for the rant... bit of a crappy day here it was raining so i couldnt get on with the desk..

yes the behrys look like the mackie simply because it was the one that they copied.. there was a legal battle between mackie and behriger a few years back.. no winner but things were sorted out no more mx8000a but the newer 9000 came out instead..

as for making these.. damn anyone can make one and i mean anyone, you just need to know your basic desk size and a few other things... if you need help or info on making one all you gotta do is ask me.. i cant sell them as a mass produced item but i am going to be making a newer version after this one so it will be up for sale.. price£250 thats it... if your in the U.S i can supply plans but i aint shipping it!! im in the uk and it would cost a fortune.. :eek:

not much to do really now, the rack insert unit, the armrest and the end panels... then the finish not sure how im going to finish it yet but you will be the first to see....
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I want the plans :D
 
Ventilation

Ventilation in such a desk is only required if the mixing consoles and devices inserted, have openings for ventilation. Not all mixers do, especially in the analog world.

My long row of different types of Tascam mixers all have ventilation holes on the bottom, and my steel console table is an open frame, so its not a problem.

But not one device on my table, has vents in the top or the back, with the exception of the video monitors, and they just sit on the shelf in free air.
 
however the area to heat dissapation size for these consoles and the fact that the 400watt psu is external makes the heat from the negligable. this console design allows a free air movement to flow around the base and top of the console, therefore there is no trapped heat or heat buildup in any area, as for the rack inserts the hardisk recorders and the audio interfaces are convection cooled anyway and the heat generated by them is nearly nil, this is acheived by replacing the manufacturers heatsinks with custom made ones that i had cut at a laser cutting shop.

so basically as long as the surface area top and bottom is greater than the heat dissapation per square inch then there is no problem with heat.

any console with a psu builtinto it is however subject to the psu heat buildup and convetion airflow also fan convection, this in mind all you would do is allow a greater area at the rear of the console for air to flow freely and for cables to run, as hot air rises it would naturally pull the cold air up from the cavity in the base of the console this cavity is 20inches overall by in excess of 90 inches in length this is more cold air per cubic feet than the consoles would ever need to allow heat dissaption and convection cooling.. so any console with a built in psu would benefit by this..

oh and by the way.. when your ready to make a new console fredrick.. we will have to talk ;)yours is very nice but wouldnt ya like one of these??? in a 90 series format?? gotta tell you guys i dont mind sharing anything with you.. just ask and pm me and we will talk.. i can tell you how to set up the measurements for your base and the legs and how to template the inserts and brackets ready for c.n.c routing and also the exact measurements for the cam and dowels and the 140 degree hinges..

i will also show you haow to make the rack units under the top console.. i will put some more detailed pics of those up shortly..






frederic said:
Ventilation in such a desk is only required if the mixing consoles and devices inserted, have openings for ventilation. Not all mixers do, especially in the analog world.

My long row of different types of Tascam mixers all have ventilation holes on the bottom, and my steel console table is an open frame, so its not a problem.

But not one device on my table, has vents in the top or the back, with the exception of the video monitors, and they just sit on the shelf in free air.
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pk1 said:
oh and by the way.. when your ready to make a new console fredrick.. we will have to talk ;)yours is very nice but wouldnt ya like one of these??? in a 90 series format?? gotta tell you guys i dont mind sharing anything with you.. just ask and pm me and we will talk.. i can tell you how to set up the measurements for your base and the legs and how to template the inserts and brackets ready for c.n.c routing and also the exact measurements for the cam and dowels and the 140 degree hinges..

i will also show you haow to make the rack units under the top console.. i will put some more detailed pics of those up shortly..
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Looking forward to the pictures...

I very much wanted wood in the visible areas, but alas my woodworking skills are substandard at best. Many years of automotive fabrication leaves me with steel being the only reasonable option for me.

I even have an aluminum birdhouse in the backyard :-D

I don't mind sharing either... that's why I post so many pictures and put effort into descriptions and stuff. The only thing I do not share with people on the internet is the magical code in my truck's EFI computer. I share snippets and sections of it, but not all of it. I have 5 years of effort into it... and I don't want some greedy monkey taking my code and making a product out of it. But that's a unique situation of course. Everything else I'm happy to share.
 
That's right...I do recall you saying that the plasma cutter won't burn wood. :D
 
punkin said:
That's right...I do recall you saying that the plasma cutter won't burn wood. :D
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I've accidentally slipped the plasma cutter off an MDF template while trying to cut a curved piece of steel, and no, it didn't really cut. The MDF did burst into flames though. Along with my sleeve.
 
well the inserts finally arrived.. (jumps up and down like a kid again) :D :D :D :D :D

im going to put up some pictures later of them and the rack units..

when i have finished this i am going to give out the plans so you can make your own, im just finishing the build then once i know the math is right i can give you the plans and away you go..

by the way last thing to do is the endpanels.. they are out of 50mm mdf panel and they are the most expensive item... but hey who cares :rolleyes:

PICTURES TO FOLLOW IN THE NEXT HOUR OR SO..
 
my nice inserts arrived today :D :D

on the top.. un marked or drilled.. below marked and drilled 5mm holes for the lock dowels :D
 
now the mid panels that provide the 19-1/8" rack space :D

the top.. marked and drilled with a 16mm cam bit

below drilled holes with cams in place
 
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