DBX 166XL vs. RNC Please respond ASAP Thanks!!

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GOODLAND said:
Yes, it would have been a problem. I needed balanced connections.
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By this point, you probably think I'm picking on you and being an asshole. That's not my intention at all, but I just have to add this: you probably only think you need balanced connections. How long are your cable runs? Plenty of pro studios, including Electrical Audio, Jackpot and Hotel2Tango, use the RNC regularly without any problems.
 
ROblows said:
Ultimately, yes. I'm not sure why one would ask for the opinions of others, though, if you only cared about your own. Sometimes it's good to hear what others have to say about something, particularly if they have more experience with the subject matter than you do. I often see someone ask a question similar to one that I myself might have faced years earlier. "Do I get the Squire strat? Or do I buck-up the extra $100 for the MIM? Or an extra $300 for a MIA?" That kind of thing. When I see someone leaning towards the Squire, I want to shout "No! No! No! You'll regret it! Get the MIA, or at least the MIM! You'll still be playing either of those 30 years from now, but you'll hate the Squire in a year or two." If the response is "I haven't tried the MIM or the MIA, but I like the Squire", well, so be it. At least you like the Squire. And if you're happy, that's all that matters. I still don't think it's the right choice though.
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I do care what other think, but when you call the piece of equipment I just got a piece of shit, I tend to get alittle defensive. Plus, I love when others with more experience help me out, but it just didn't seem like you were helping me as much as you were saying how bad of a compressor I got. I mean seriously, if it was that bad then how come more than half the people on this thread say that it is a decent compressor. I'm not saying this is the best compressor in the world, I'm just saying that it's not a piece of shit at all. I do appreciate your concern but I'm only 16 and don't have all that much money to spend on some $1300.00 like this one. I know what a good compressor is and I know what they sound like, I'm not stupid, I just can't afford it, Sorry.
 
ROblows said:
By this point, you probably think I'm picking on you and being an asshole. That's not my intention at all, but I just have to add this: you probably only think you need balanced connections. How long are your cable runs? Plenty of pro studios, including Electrical Audio, Jackpot and Hotel2Tango, use the RNC regularly without any problems.
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It's not that unbalanced wouldn't have worked it's just that I like having all my connections balanced, it's my own way of doing things.
And for the record I don't think your an asshole.
 
By the way ROblows, check out my GOODLAND link to here how bad my recordings really are. This was done using "shity" compressors.Click Here
 
GOODLAND said:
I do care what other think, but when you call the piece of equipment I just got a piece of shit, I tend to get alittle defensive. Plus, I love when others with more experience help me out, but it just didn't seem like you were helping me as much as you were saying how bad of a compressor I got.
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The truth is, you ask this question, you will get those who say the dbx sucks. For the record, I don't like it either, I prefer the RNC, and I HAVE tried both. Does that mean I'm right? No, of course not, that is MY opinion, and it is worth what you oaid for it.

ANother comment - if you choose your gear based upon whether it supports balanced connections and you funds are limited, IMHO you are ruling out a fair amount of truly decent gear, probably in favour of inferior gear that just happens to support balanced connections. For the average home studio, balanced vrs unbalanced should not make a difference. again, my opinion, FWIW. Possibly hence you choice of the DBX.
 
fraserhutch said:
ANother comment - if you choose your gear based upon whether it supports balanced connections and you funds are limited, IMHO you are ruling out a fair amount of truly decent gear, probably in favour of inferior gear that just happens to support balanced connections. For the average home studio, balanced vrs unbalanced should not make a difference. again, my opinion, FWIW. Possibly hence you choice of the DBX.
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It really wasn't a big deal about the balanced vs. unbalanced, it definately wasn't a deciding factor in my purchase.
 
I can't believe there are so many people that prefer the 166 over the RNC. The RNC is the most transparent compressor I've ever used.
 
cominginsecond said:
I can't believe there are so many people that prefer the 166 over the RNC. The RNC is the most transparent compressor I've ever used.
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Well, it all goes back to personal prefrence.
 
cominginsecond said:
I can't believe there are so many people that prefer the 166 over the RNC. The RNC is the most transparent compressor I've ever used.
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Me and my girl listened to your recording of
"i cant believe you actually died"
Nice work on that one!
And what a cryptic almost silly undertone...awesome.

-Finster
 
xfinsterx said:
Me and my girl listened to your recording of
"i cant believe you actually died"
Nice work on that one!
And what a cryptic almost silly undertone...awesome.

-Finster
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Thanks!

It's a song by a band called the Microphones. You should look into them if you liked the song.
 
cominginsecond said:
I can't believe there are so many people that prefer the 166 over the RNC. The RNC is the most transparent compressor I've ever used.
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He needed dual mono. That's one of the few things the RNC can't do. In context of this thread and the options Goodland presented, the 166 was a better choice. In this case its not a question of the sound, its a question of what would work for the situation.

It doesn't seem like all that hard, or contentious, an observation.

-C
 
Chris Shaeffer said:
He needed dual mono. That's one of the few things the RNC can't do. In context of this thread and the options Goodland presented, the 166 was a better choice. In this case its not a question of the sound, its a question of what would work for the situation.

It doesn't seem like all that hard, or contentious, an observation.

-C
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Oh. I missed that.
 
Chris Shaeffer said:
In this case its not a question of the sound, its a question of what would work for the situation.
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Preferences aside, I still can't comprehend how someone like FALKEN can come to the conclusion that the 166 is transparent and the RNC is "tone sucking". That may be the case in a parallel universe, but surely not here in this one.
 
ROblows said:
Preferences aside, I still can't comprehend how someone like FALKEN can come to the conclusion that the 166 is transparent and the RNC is "tone sucking". That may be the case in a parallel universe, but surely not here in this one.
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He's on a mission :)

To each their own, I guess, but I'm with you on that.
 
ROblows said:
Preferences aside, I still can't comprehend how someone like FALKEN can come to the conclusion that the 166 is transparent and the RNC is "tone sucking". That may be the case in a parallel universe, but surely not here in this one.
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If he was using the RNC in line between a balanced mic pre and his sound card there would be a 6db loss in volume due to the physics involved in going from balanced to unbalanced. If this is the case I can see how he could view the volume loss as tone sucking.
If the RNC was used in a channel insert in a mixing desk the 6db loss wouldn't happen (to my knowledge.)
 
tkingen said:
If he was using the RNC in line between a balanced mic pre and his sound card there would be a 6db loss in volume due to the physics involved in going from balanced to unbalanced. If this is the case I can see how he could view the volume loss as tone sucking.
If the RNC was used in a channel insert in a mixing desk the 6db loss wouldn't happen (to my knowledge.)
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I've use the RNC inline with no ill effects. In fact, BOTH the mic pre in question and my convertors are balanced.
 
like I said the RNC has a better signal path. It is the gain reduction that sounds off to me. I run them both in my patchbay and can compare pretty easily. hey - maybe they both suck tone and i just prefer one sucky tone over another. I'm not going to sell the RNC just yet...I only used it on one project, and unlike some of you guys I don't get to record every day...Ima give it another shot but I was really, really dissapointed with it the first time on vocals. and by that I mean I mixed with it for about a week, trying to tweak it to its potential. I can't believe nobody else has noticed this! shit maybe I am in a parallel universe.
 
This is sort of off topic but I just wanted to know what the gray colored rep ment. I've gotten like 2 of them and can't figure out what they mean.
 
GOODLAND said:
This is sort of off topic but I just wanted to know what the gray colored rep ment. I've gotten like 2 of them and can't figure out what they mean.
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I think it's when somebody with no rep power gives you negative rep. Did they come with messages?
 
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