DBX 166XL vs. RNC Please respond ASAP Thanks!!

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ROblows said:
Being that the 166 is an unmitigated piece of shit, I'd suggest the RNC.

...unless you're going for that "piece of shit" sound.

Really?

I never noticed.

-C
 
what about the DBX 266xl? is that some more "shit"? details...not meaning to hijack the thread but i must understand this "166 is shit" concept if I'm not going to go buy a behringer multicom or something
 
distortedrumble said:
what about the DBX 266xl? is that some more "shit"? details...not meaning to hijack the thread but i must understand this "166 is shit" concept if I'm not going to go buy a behringer multicom or something

The Only one that thinks the DBX 166XL is a Piece of Shit on this thread is ROblows.
I personaly am liking the results of mine.


Futhermore, if DBX is shit then what would you call behringers equipment? :confused:
 
GOODLAND said:
The Only one that thinks the DBX 166XL is a Piece of Shit on this thread is ROblows.
I personaly am liking the results of mine.


Futhermore, if DBX is shit then what would you call behringers equipment? :confused:

Scheiße?


shit in german
 
Sorry, I sometimes forget that this is a "home" recording board. Still, I find the lower end dbx stuff to be quite brutal, even for home use. It just completely sucks any tone out of whatever is put into it. If you're going for "lo fi" that might be alright, I suppose. But if you want grit and grime and don't want to break the bank, you'd be better off with one of the old Ashly compressors (the SC-50, CL-50, or their stereo variants). You can find them just about anywhere for about $50. If you want a good all-rounder, go for the RNC. Symetrix made a decent unit that can be found cheap on the used market (forget the model number). You might be able to find an old Aphex Compellor for cheap. They can be kind of cool. IMNSHO, the 166 is just plain shite, though. Don't get me started about the 266. That thing aspires to be shite.
 
ROblows said:
Sorry, I sometimes forget that this is a "home" recording board. Still, I find the lower end dbx stuff to be quite brutal, even for home use. It just completely sucks any tone out of whatever is put into it. If you're going for "lo fi" that might be alright, I suppose. But if you want grit and grime and don't want to break the bank, you'd be better off with one of the old Ashly compressors (the SC-50, CL-50, or their stereo variants). You can find them just about anywhere for about $50. If you want a good all-rounder, go for the RNC. Symetrix made a decent unit that can be found cheap on the used market (forget the model number). You might be able to find an old Aphex Compellor for cheap. They can be kind of cool. IMNSHO, the 166 is just plain shite, though. Don't get me started about the 266. That thing aspires to be shite.

Have you even used the 166XL yourself?
 
GOODLAND said:
Have you even used the 166XL yourself?

Yes, in fact I used to own one. I also used to own a 266A. The 266 was returned for a refund (after being exchanged for another unit to determine if the horrible sound was just from a faulty unit - it wasn't). The 166 was sold on E-Bay.
 
ROblows said:
Yes, in fact I used to own one. I also used to own a 266A. The 266 was returned for a refund (after being exchanged for another unit to determine if the horrible sound was just from a faulty unit - it wasn't). The 166 was sold on E-Bay.


Would take the 166XL over a Behringer comp.?
 
GOODLAND said:
Would take the 166XL over a Behringer comp.?

If those were the only choices, I'd probably opt for no compression. Though, to be fair, I havn't had much experience with Behringer's stuff.
 
Whoa, folks- the 166*A* is a different beast than the 166*XL*

I believe the 166A is in the Project Line- I could be wrong, though. I've never used that one. If I understand correctly, the 166A is manufactured differently than the 166XL's used to be. Its also less expensive than the 166XL. I *think* the entire 'A' line is quite a step down from the previous X and XL's, with the possible exception of the 160A. I think that one has identical design and parts as the 160X & XL's- its just sourced and manufactured differently. I can't remember my sources for all this so I could easily be wrong.

Hmm. I should have thought to clarify that back at the beginning of the thread. Oh, well. Its still true that the RNC can't do dual mono and that's what Goodland needed.

So ROblows opinion about the A line might well very warranted- I don't think any of us were talking about the A models. Darn manufacturers and their confusing naming systems!

-C
 
Chris Shaeffer said:
Whoa, folks- the 166*A* is a different beast than the 166*XL*

I believe the 166A is in the Project Line- I could be wrong, though. I've never used that one. If I understand correctly, the 166A is manufactured differently than the 166XL's used to be. Its also less expensive than the 166XL. I *think* the entire 'A' line is quite a step down from the previous X and XL's, with the possible exception of the 160A. I think that one has identical design and parts as the 160X & XL's- its just sourced and manufactured differently. I can't remember my sources for all this so I could easily be wrong.

Hmm. I should have thought to clarify that back at the beginning of the thread. Oh, well. Its still true that the RNC can't do dual mono and that's what Goodland needed.

So ROblows opinion about the A line might well very warranted- I don't think any of us were talking about the A models. Darn manufacturers and their confusing naming systems!

-C

I think your right because I really can't find anything so terribly wrong with the 166XL
 
ROblows said:
Sorry, I sometimes forget that this is a "home" recording board. Still, I find the lower end dbx stuff to be quite brutal, even for home use. It just completely sucks any tone out of whatever is put into it.

really? That's how I find the RNC. tone sucking. I find the dbx 166xl to be much more transparent.
 
If it makes a difference, the RNC is unbalanced. I believe the dbx is balanced?
This may or may not be a concern - depending on your application.
 
tkingen said:
If it makes a difference, the RNC is unbalanced. I believe the dbx is balanced?
This may or may not be a concern - depending on your application.
Yes, it would have been a problem. I needed balanced connections.
Thanks.
 
If goodland is happy with the sound it gives him thats all that matters.

There are many different types of compressors on the market.

Some better, some worse...but the bottom line is the opinion of the listener.

Nothing more nothing less.

-Finster
 
xfinsterx said:
If goodland is happy with the sound it gives him thats all that matters.

There are many different types of compressors on the market.

Some better, some worse...but the bottom line is the opinion of the listener.

Nothing more nothing less.

-Finster

Well Said.
 
xfinsterx said:
If goodland is happy with the sound it gives him thats all that matters.

Ultimately, yes. I'm not sure why one would ask for the opinions of others, though, if you only cared about your own. Sometimes it's good to hear what others have to say about something, particularly if they have more experience with the subject matter than you do. I often see someone ask a question similar to one that I myself might have faced years earlier. "Do I get the Squire strat? Or do I buck-up the extra $100 for the MIM? Or an extra $300 for a MIA?" That kind of thing. When I see someone leaning towards the Squire, I want to shout "No! No! No! You'll regret it! Get the MIA, or at least the MIM! You'll still be playing either of those 30 years from now, but you'll hate the Squire in a year or two." If the response is "I haven't tried the MIM or the MIA, but I like the Squire", well, so be it. At least you like the Squire. And if you're happy, that's all that matters. I still don't think it's the right choice though.
 
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