custom studio snake

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I have a dilema! I am trying to find a 20 ft snake that
I can use to input my drums,guitar,bass etc.into my control
room.My control room is seperated by a 12 inch thick wall
consisting of 2x6s sheetrock and celetex layered together.,
I was planning on going up thru the ceiling and down again into the control room with a simple 16 or 24 channel snake. ButI can find anywhere to get a short one. all the ones out there are 100 ft>>> can someone offer a cost effecient suggestion to alievate my studio blues>?>>>> thanks...

regards , Sativa
 
Build your own. It's easy. The pre made alternative is expensive and you can build a better one.
 
re-track rat /custom snake

Track rat... I did think about building my own snake.
However.. Im not exactly sure how to go about it. I do have
some old snake cable from an old 50 ft we used for giggin out... its wiped out pretty bad... Im not into soldering 500 connections ethier to tell you the truth,
Does anyone know where I might get something or can someone explain the how to" to me...
Regards, Sativa.....
 
Re: re-track rat /custom snake

sativa said:
Track rat... I did think about building my own snake.
However.. Im not exactly sure how to go about it. I do have
some old snake cable from an old 50 ft we used for giggin out... its wiped out pretty bad... Im not into soldering 500 connections ethier to tell you the truth,
Does anyone know where I might get something or can someone explain the how to" to me...
Regards, Sativa.....

Well, you could make a pvc pipe "tunnel" and just run mic cables through it. heck, you could even make it out of wood, and put sound damping material inside as well-screw it together so that you can get in it to replace the cables.

tim
 
Hey, about 5 months ago I was going to do the same thing you just talked about. That is, running a snake eithe over the control room wall, or through a hole in the wall, but then I realized that I would be putting to waste my beautiful 2 foot thick wall.
I'm have certain advantages in the department of running wires and stuff like that, I'm an electronics technician so it's all part of my job to do that kind of stuff. Doing it in my own home is just like on the job.
The last reply had it going on, about the "tunnel" but it's really called Conduit. If you go to any hardware store and as for 1 1/4 inch PVC conduit they'll be able to help you out. What you do is: Make a small enough hole, either in the ceiling right next to the control room wall, or run the conduit to the floor inside the control room and cut a small enough hole at the bottom of the wall. Conduit PVC is EASY as pie to put together, you just need the adhesive to glue it. There are also special 90 degree fittings that make pulling the wires through it a BREEZE. Figure out how many bends, or turns, there will be and buy that many 90 degree fittings. It's all SO easy to do. And the reason I said to use 1 1/4 inch conduit is because you'll be able to fit plenty of wires through. And the nice thing about running conduit and leaving the ends open once construction is complete is the fact that you're completely open to pull as many wires through as you want, whenever you want, and there's no pressure to get that part done before everything else. As long as you keep the ends open you'll be ALL good.
Now you're probably asking, "how do you actualy feed the wires through the conduit?" You use something called a Fish Tape. I know I know, it's a funny name, but if you go to the hardware store and ask for a 50 foot Fish Tape they'll know exactly what it is, and it will run about $25, well worth it to do it all right. The Fish Tape is a long metal "wire" that can go through the conduit no problem, you just push it through (try pushing a flimsy wire through the conduit). Then when the Fish Tape comes out the other end, tape all the wires you want to it using electricle tape and pull them on through. It's so easy you'll think you just won $100! :) With those wires you can buy boxes and mic ends and solder them yourself and put it all together yourself.
The bottom line as to why you want to run conduit and not use a pre made snake is this... What if you want a bigger mixing board some day?
The reason big studios have BIG mixing boards isn't because they're actualy using 128 channels all at once, it's because they've got 10 rooms, all with 20 something mic jacks in them.

I hope I was a help to you
 
Thanks (alternative/snake!!!)

Thanks, you guys were a great help.I never thought about
doing it that way.However here is one thought I have.
If I run my pvc conduit straight thru my control room wall
, even though I would place it as close to the floor as
posable, wouldnt I compromize the integrity of the (sealed)
area ? If so what remedy might you have in mind...

regards, Sativa.
 
Re: Thanks (alternative/snake!!!)

sativa said:
Thanks, you guys were a great help.I never thought about
doing it that way.However here is one thought I have.
If I run my pvc conduit straight thru my control room wall
, even though I would place it as close to the floor as
posable, wouldnt I compromize the integrity of the (sealed)
area ? If so what remedy might you have in mind...

regards, Sativa.

Since the conduit will run above the ceiling in the live room (or whatever room is adjascent the control room) it's not a life or death matter. And if you put lots of insulation inside the wall that will stop a lot, since the sound has to travel through 8 feet of insulation to the floor. Still, caulk around the conduit to make sure there isn't a leak from the outside of the conduit. That way the only sound leaking into the control room will that sound that gets inside the conduit, and that can be stopped, for the most part, by putting small peices of insulation inside the conduit packed around the wires.
Either way you're going to have to have a small hole somewhere, you just need to minimize the damage.
-Later
 
Since this fellow was looking for his snake approx. 10 years ago, I suspect he may have solved his problem by now. :spank:
 
I have a dilema! I am trying to find a 20 ft snake that
I can use to input my drums,guitar,bass etc.into my control
room.My control room is seperated by a 12 inch thick wall
consisting of 2x6s sheetrock and celetex layered together.,
I was planning on going up thru the ceiling and down again into the control room with a simple 16 or 24 channel snake. ButI can find anywhere to get a short one. all the ones out there are 100 ft>>> can someone offer a cost effecient suggestion to alievate my studio blues>?>>>> thanks...

regards , Sativa

I have a 24 channel snake 25ft
 
lets all revive an old dead thread just to get our post count up :thumbs up:
Just kidding of course
 
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