Critique reqest...

[tuorum]

This is my request for a critique of my music. I've never asked other musicians for this... Feel free to hurt my feelings I only do this as a hobby.

Songs at http://www.ampcast.com/Heaven-Industries

Specifically, I'm interested in critiques of the songs "Gone - .2 - Last Descent of Columbia" and "Pushing Atoms (sync mix -- 2.2)", but all others are fine.

Any feedback is good; drums are compressed to hell, your music sucks!, whatever!! I'm game.

Tuorum

 

[tuorum]

Can I assume that the lack of response is good?

 

[tuorum]

thanks anyway.

 

[Dogman]

Actually, drums are pretty cool. Interesting music. I like it. Nice sounds.
Ed

 

[spaceman]

I like the sound and feel of descent but I think you go abit overkill with the keyboard (organ sound) at times so it lost my attention but I'm a kraftwerk fan so I like simpilcity. Sample is cool. I like the guitar. I think Decent has potential.

Pushing Atoms is abit clubby for my tastes so I cant really make a comment.

 

[tuorum]

Thanks! Just what I need to hear.

I would change some of it, but at some point I managed to screw up the original project and now things seem to get off. The organish-stringish thing is VERY busy in the beginning. I didn't realize how much until I used a different sound.

The sample is from NASA's Columbia review board web site, with some EQ'ing and a little delay and reverb. I noticed that I'm bad about overusing reverb, but I still like the sound.

 

[tuorum]

In response to the drums, almost all are from the Kalava archive. I also used some Alesis samples I found on the web.

 

[jake-owa]

The Columbia song.

Ok, so far, it's more like comm bytes with some beat happening.

This doesn't seem to fit the tragedy or even convey any real message to me. Yeah, kinda lame. Not a tribute, not even much of anything.

Boring.

Here's a link to a song about the shuttle that makes a point rather than being just a bunch of snippets of sound from the brodcast. Check out the tune titled STS-107, you won't be sorry.
http://www.nowhereradio.com/artists/?aid=1698/singles

Not to be a dick but if you are just going to make a dance thingie aren't there much better subjects?

 

[true-eurt]

I had a listen...it is a bit drawn out to me..but this isn't a fav genere of mine...but if you like it, don't give up.....go for it...

 

[metalj]

I cant personally sit and enjoy listening to this type of music without some kind of visual to go with it. Well i guess if I smoked a big green FATTY !!! I would enjoy it

But really, i can see this as being a movie score or commercial background music, maybe a fashion show, or a presentation type background music, even something for a video game(im talking all the music, not just the 2 you posted for). I just think a visual is needed for me.

The "pushing atoms" song would be a great type of Nu Porno music as well !!!!

hey just my opinion.

hope you do well with it.

 

[tuorum]

The Columbia song.

Ok, so far, it's more like comm bytes with some beat happening.

This doesn't seem to fit the tragedy or even convey any real message to me. Yeah, kinda lame. Not a tribute, not even much of anything.

Boring.

Here's a link to a song about the shuttle that makes a point rather than being just a bunch of snippets of sound from the brodcast. Check out the tune titled STS-107, you won't be sorry.
http://www.nowhereradio.com/artists/?aid=1698/singles

Not to be a dick but if you are just going to make a dance thingie aren't there much better subjects?

The air-to-ground loop, in my opinion, conveys the message. It is left to the listener to derive the point based on their experiences throughout the events. If the listener cannot come up with meaning, then that is their loss. I didn't think the incident needed to have meaning or an answer spelled out, so I did not provide one.

Also, the "snippets" are not actually snippets at all. They are the entire WAV air-ground loop provided by NASA. The point was to match some music to that loop without chopping up the original and allow the listener to find solace.

 

[jake-owa]

Any feedback is good; drums are compressed to hell, your music sucks!, whatever!! I'm game.

I am sorry, I took you seriously.

 

[tuorum]

I am sorry, I took you seriously.

And I you up to the last 2 paragraphs of your post.. If the music isn't your style and you just don't like that style, don't reply. And don't post an example that is in a different genere.

 

[jake-owa]

Hey, fuck you, I will reply to anything I want anyway I want.

I can appreciate the genre and I am making what I feel are valid points asswipe. If you don't agree let me klnow or down't and leave it at that. You can't tell people what to respond to after asking for ANY feedback.

Dumbass....get a clue.

 

[tuorum]

But really, i can see this as being a movie score or commercial background music, maybe a fashion show, or a presentation type background music, even something for a video game(im talking all the music, not just the 2 you posted for).

The "pushing atoms" song would be a great type of Nu Porno music as well !!!!
.......
hope you do well with it.

I've been told before that my stuff sounded like backing music for video games. But never heard it as porno music! I like that...

Thanks.

 

[Rokket]

This is my request for a critique of my music. I've never asked other musicians for this... Feel free to hurt my feelings I only do this as a hobby.
Any feedback is good; drums are compressed to hell, your music sucks!, whatever!! I'm game.

Tuorum

You said all this and then got assbent when Jake gave you his critique? I think if you are going to say that you have thick skin, you should prove it too. Having said that, I am not a fan of this genre, so my opinion wouldn't mean much because I don't listen to this stuff, and I have nothing to compare it to.

 

[tuorum]

I do not feel I am getting "ass bent" . Music is an artistic expression and always lends itself to interpretation. Hence, I appreciate all comments, even if Jake thinks the song is "lame". That is his opinion and I respect that. I also respect that he (and possible others) feel that my song does not "make a point". My response to his message was to explain that. The response was not intended to negate any comments, just explain my reasoning for the song.

In my opinion, my song does make a point, but Jake's post did not seem to respect that. Instead, he posts a link to a song using snippets of similar loops in a completely different genre. That song conveys a message. My intention wasn't to tell a story, but to fuel emotions and feelings.

It was my artistic style that led me to use the clips and formulate the song as I did.

I do appologize if I came off as "ass bent", though. I do appreciate the feed back.

<flame bait comment>

Be respectful of other's rights to artistic freedom. If you don't like the song, simply state that it is lame, or it sucks and, if possible, explain why. If you don't like a particular part, explain what part is off and offer suggestions. (drums are too loud, not enough sonic spread). Otherwise, there is no use in asking for any opinions as nothing constructive will come of it.

In my opinion, this forum should be professional and courteous. If you can't hold your temper, don't respond.

Lastly, if you sentence starts "Not to be a dick", delete it, because you will at least sound like one.
<end flame bait comment>

 

[chugheshc]

listened to the columbia song.
recording wise I could hear everything quite clearly.

I'm not exactly sure what genre this falls into, too low energy for dancing, the nasa stuff in the background is hard to make out over the instruments, so it's very difficult to be intrigued by the "dialog". The instrumental accompaniment didn't ever get interesting enough to make it catchy.
recording wise good, song wise - sort of lacking imho.
jake-owa says what he thinks, you do need a thick skin on here, whether the
comments are genre/technical/musical from my limited research if he likes it, it is usually pretty damn listenable.
I liked the rush song about the first shuttle disaster. can't remmeber the name though.
good luck to you tuorum !
peace
C.

 

[jake-owa]

The response was not intended to negate any comments, ...

But you also say...

If the music isn't your style and you just don't like that style, don't reply

That's a fucked contradiction. So you get to pick and choose which comments are meaningful just because you ASSUME that the reviewer doesn't like the genre??

Be respectful of other's rights to artistic freedom. If you don't like the song, simply state that it is lame, or it sucks and, if possible, explain why.

Which is exactly what I did.

In my opinion, this forum should be professional and courteous. If you can't hold your temper, don't respond.

You must be new here.

Lastly, if you sentence starts "Not to be a dick", delete it, because you will at least sound like one.
<end flame bait comment>

You know what? Fuck you. you have started a thread acting like you can take the criticism but you have also given at least four or five "don't do this" comments that stink of arrogance. You bib baby, take your lumps and move on like everyone else or don't I don't give a fuck if you want to look stupid here. God knows it never stops me. But remember when you tell people how top respond you can't do shit to stop my comments here. So if you are gonna post your crap...yes complete crap in public be prepared prick.


I'll be here.

 

[metalj]

bom chicka, bom bom !!!!