critique my drums?

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The snare seems loud compared to everything else, try bringing it down some, and then maybe once you do that, try bringing the high end down a bit on the snare as well. Its nice having that high end crack there, but I think you might have gone a little too far. Not much, but a little. $0.02
 
I prefere the drums loud in the mix but I have to agree, the snare is too far up. I hear too much of a small room in as well and to me, that ain't a good thing.
 
tourettes5139 said:
The snare seems loud compared to everything else, try bringing it down some, and then maybe once you do that, try bringing the high end down a bit on the snare as well. Its nice having that high end crack there, but I think you might have gone a little too far. Not much, but a little. $0.02
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this "mix" isn't even mixed at all. It's all raw.


Track Rat said:
I prefere the drums loud in the mix but I have to agree, the snare is too far up. I hear too much of a small room in as well and to me, that ain't a good thing.
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It is quite a small room (12x12)
 
The toms are just about non-existent. The kick seems flabby,..no definition. The cymbals sound fake. Overall it sounds like you recorded this with one mic at the snare. They need to be wider and more defined,..in my opinion.

On the plus side I like the sound of snare.

Take 'er easy,..
Calwood
 
^I agree. You might even want to tune down your snare a little to get rid of some of that extra crack. You might want to put your 991's a bit higher and turn down the treble on them. Personaly I turn down the treble all the way and boost the bass, since my tom and snare mics pick up what little treble i want thats left out by my overheads.
 
mjm620 said:
^I agree. You might even want to tune down your snare a little to get rid of some of that extra crack. You might want to put your 991's a bit higher and turn down the treble on them. Personaly I turn down the treble all the way and boost the bass, since my tom and snare mics pick up what little treble i want thats left out by my overheads.
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thanks. I'll try to do that :)
 
Whoa, that's some pretty heavy compression you've got going on there.

The drums also sound like they're mono or almost mono. Didi you use stereo overheads? Where did you have them? I usually pan mine as wide as I can and that sets the stereo stage for the song.

You're a system of a down fan, I take it? Pop in one of their CD's compare the levels of their guitars, bass, and drums to use as guide for setting your mixes up. Don't worry- you'll never get it just like their, its just a guide.

Take care,
Chris
 
Well since I'm limited...I only have 4 inputs to work with (Delta 44)
So I have one channel for bass, snare, and one for each overhead.

On the Left Overhead (from drummer's perspective) I have the first rack tom with it and on that track on Adobe Audition, it's panned wide left.

The Right Overhead has the second rack tom and the floor tom. The track on that is panned wide right.

I guess it sounds mono because it's a small room? Not only that but it's also untreated whatsoever. When I get enough money I'll be buying some foam and bass traps.

There are a huge amount of high frequencies bouncing off the walls. So the Hi Hats would probably be heard as much on the Right Overheads Too.
 
Chris Shaeffer said:
Nice playing, by the way. :D
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It's not really playing. :rolleyes:
I'll be posting some of my real stuff when I get more experienced with mic placements, mixing, and room treatment.

This is just a sample.
 
The new mix is being steeped on pretty hard. Did you run this through some sort of (yikes!!) "mastering" program? The snare level is better but something is pumping.
 
The levels are better with the snare, but I would definitely use less compression. I actually liked the sound of the first one better, (natural) but the snare level is better in the second one. I think that if you struck a balance between the two, then you would have a winner. That is good playing, though! :D
 
tourettes5139 said:
The levels are better with the snare, but I would definitely use less compression. I actually liked the sound of the first one better, (natural) but the snare level is better in the second one. I think that if you struck a balance between the two, then you would have a winner. That is good playing, though! :D
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thank you.

yeah my ears were shot during the tracking since I did all the instruments.

Once again...it's just a sample :)
 
Track Rat said:
The new mix is being steeped on pretty hard. Did you run this through some sort of (yikes!!) "mastering" program? The snare level is better but something is pumping.
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yep...some mastering thing..
one of those free mastering plugins

i didnt touch the cymbals at all except a little EQ fix and adjusted some clipping.
I did however compressed the shit out of the snare and the bass. The bass was EQ'd a lot because on the raw mix, the kick sounded very .. nasty.
 
Hey dude, nice clip.
I thought the snare sounded excellent but the toms were a little weak. Probably because you didn't close mic them, but not bad for 4 mics. The larger toms sounded better than the smaller ones on the fill half way though the clip.

Good playing though. I liked your broken triplets near the end. Single pedal or double?

If that wasn't really playing why don't you let us hear what you can really do?!!!

Phrase
 
sure ill let you hear some :)


its doubles over doubles.

i have a new clip which I'll post a new thread of.
 
a) guitar intonation out quite a bit, if you were wondering
b) you're anticipating the beat when you play your drums- you need to lay off and not have so much drive. I can't stress this enough. That is the difference between a decent player and a very good player.
c) it sounds like every hit you're doing on your snare is a rim shot, I'm pretty sure it's not just compression
 
That second round definitely sounds better. My suggestions: I'm hearing some seriously strong EQ coming from the snare mic - sounds like 3kish? It's giving it a sort of "hollow" effect that I think you won't want. You might try gating the snare, and aiming the back of the snare mic as much at the hi-hat as you can (for rejection).

Toms: for the type of music you're playing, I'd probably suggest tuning them quite a bit lower. Power rock like that doesn't need wimpy high toms... you're gonna want something with more "umph". They may not ring quite as much, but they'll fit the song better.

Overall, it's a good mix - you've got a great start. If, in the future, you're looking to upgrade some of your drums, I'd start by getting better crash cymbals... that will make the most noticeable difference in the way your whole kit sounds. The hi-hat's decent - it could pass pretty well. I like the china sound, too. But your crashes don't have a natural, musical decay. It's decently easy to make any ol' kit sound pretty good... but you can't do anything to change the way a cymbal sounds. Just a thought. :) Great work, though!
 
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