crate half stack?

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wow thanks for all yoru time. on the back of the cab do you think it would say?

also the reason why im hesitant is

a) im gonna be playing in a pop punkish kinda, and then a dancey band like hot hot heatish and ill need some distortion, ive heard some complaints. but i ll be useing probably a mxr distortion pedal plus... unless theres anything better i can get for my type of sound?

and

b)http://www.harmony-central.com/Guitar/Data/Crate/GT_500H-01.html
people seem to hate it. but they seem kinda retarded so i dunno.
 
Go play it. See how it sounds. Natural tube compression (distortion) is the best distortion in the world.

LOL....i see you got the MXR. Nice. YOu will still use it, but I think you might use the amps distortion equally as much. But, after the amp is cranked and it doesn't seem to go louder because it only starts to get distorted...thats a good time to turn the output of the pedal up a good ways and forcefeed the amp a signal that would kill a solid state amp but will make the tube amp scream. :eek:


Oh, and FUCK HARMONY CENTRAL! Its the only place in the world someone would rate $10k amps as having shitty sound.


The cab should say its total impedience. That is what you set the amp to output at. YOu have to look at the speakers to really tell what they are.
 
Check out the amp distortion before you buy a pedal. Crates are usually geared towards metal and heavier rock or whatever you'd like to call it. It should give you a nice distortion. Tube amps are.. the best. At least give it a try. Also, a Peavey Bandit isn't going to be anywhere near as loud as a half stack will be. Period.
 
but i dont understand why they put only 50 watts
and the peavey is 100 watts.

anyone care to explain?
 
"If it was a Crate solidstate I would stay away"

...but i like my crate gfx212 :- shes a lil 120 watt workhorse..sure i'd like tube, but she gets me by and hasn't let me down in these past 5 years.
 
Because it's a 50-watt amp? And the Peavey is 100?

Tube wattage, for whatever reason*, is a lot louder. I've got a 5150, which is 100-watts. I usually don't go over 5. 50-watts, tube, is going to be PLENTY loud. It'll do you much better than a cheap 100-watt solid state halfstack.

*I'm sure someone here will be able to explain this.
 
weirdddddd.
so 50 watts doesnt really say how loud it is? more how powerful?

haha sorry i posted twice, i didnt notice this became a 2 pager.
 
oh_the_blood said:
weirdddddd.
so 50 watts doesnt really say how loud it is? more how powerful?
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Its like trying to explain life. You can't explain it, you just have to roll with it.

(if you really want to know though, it has to do with break up I think. its still 50 watts clean, but it can be overdriven and that is were the extra power comes from. I am not certain, but I think that is it. Solid state sucks when it exceeds its limit because it is a hard clip for any frequency that exceeds the threshold that is available to it...it basically just cuts off and makes a horrid sound for. Tubes compress which is a smooth "distortion" that apprears to "shimmer" before it gets really compressed and you get that nice "overdrive" sound and then the really squished "singing sustain". Basically there is room for solid state to get just as loud I think, but you won't ever do it because it sounds like ass when it "naturally" clips. And while I haven't used a solidstate amp at full volume in a while, I assume the manufacturers don't make the actual limit available so you don't hear how bad it really sounds.)

Did that make sense at all?

its like the waveforms you see in recording programs. you can raise the overall volume, but you need to cut off the higher spots first. Solidstate is a hard flatline that hurts your ears, tubes round it off so you don't notice...and when you do notice, you have a beautiful overdrive sound. :D
 
Remember, in order to be twice as loud, you need 10 times the power. (all things being equal)
Tube amps are louder than transistor amps for the reasons that outlaws has gone over (and some others). The reason that there are 50 watt amps and 100 watt amps is because they have a different sound due to the difference in headroom. Lead players favored 50 watt heads because they break up faster and give a smoother, singier distortion. Rhythm players liked the 100 watt heads because they were crunchier and had more punch. (I'm generalizing here) The volume difference between the two is negligable. In fact, I have played big metal shows with a 30 watt amp driving my 4x12. It was plenty loud.
 
that was a good read. thanks!

i hope mine stands up to his! im sure it will considering i tried a 1950s tube amp from the 50s today, a fender, and it was much louder than it looked , and sounded amazing!
 
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