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At the minute I am recording from my output (amp or whatever), into a track in a Yamaha MT120 porta studio, then into a computer. So in effect I am just using the 4 track as a mixer.
What I am asking is, what sort of mixer would be right for me? Because the results I'm getting from the 4 track aren't good.

Any suggestions welcome.
 
The poor results can be from a list of things. Mic's, placements ,levels, mic preamps, players. Give us more details please.
 
OK, well the thing I will be recording mostly, is heavy music, or punk etc. I.e, crunchy distorted guitars. I Have a Marshall combo, which is one of the nicest sounding amps I've played, I also have a Marshall AVT150 stack, but the combo is what I'm using for recording. I also have a very nice Trace Elliot bass amp, which I know little about as I'm not a bass player.
I have a Stagg microphone (black with green writing on it), and a Behringer mic, I'm not sure of the models of these. I have access (from a friend) to a Stagg MD 007, which I'm told is a good mic. I also have a cheap non branded mic which I use purely because I don't have another option, but it seems to be fairly clear toned from what I've heard.
From the amps, I'm running them to a Yamaha MT120 4 track, and using that as a mixer. I am then running the 4 track directly into my computers sound card.

What I don't know, is what outputs I should be using from the amp, and from the 4 track. On the amp there is, Send, Line Out and Output to Speaker (1 & 2), and obviously there is the option of micing them. On the 4 track there is, Aux Send, Phones, Stereo Out, Tape Out, Monitor Out. The sound I am getting seems to overload on palm mutes, making a nasty sound, and I can't get anything decent without giving the computer a really quiet signal. So I think what I need is a mixer, instead of using the 4 track. I don't really know what else to say about my set up.

Any suggestions as to bits of gear that would help me would be appreciated. I also know very little about what preamps actually are, so any explanations and recommendations to products would be awesome. I'm not against spending money, it just takes me a while to save up. So no: "What you need is this... it's £1000", please!

Thank you.
 
Shed Guy said:
What I don't know, is what outputs I should be using from the amp, and from the 4 track. On the amp there is, Send, Line Out and Output to Speaker (1 & 2), and obviously there is the option of micing them. On the 4 track there is, Aux Send, Phones, Stereo Out, Tape Out, Monitor Out. The sound I am getting seems to overload on palm mutes, making a nasty sound, and I can't get anything decent without giving the computer a really quiet signal. So I think what I need is a mixer, instead of using the 4 track. I don't really know what else to say about my set up.

Send is typically used to send the amps signal to other processors, such as fx units. Line Out is what you would use to send the signal to tape. NEVER send the speaker out to the 4 track as it will fry your gear.

Also, it could very well be that the sound coming out of your amp via the line out isn't up to par. You would be much better off placing a mike in front of it. I don't know what kind of mike you have, but it may need a mike preamp to boost the signal, which is available on most mixers, or you could buy a separate pre amp. An ART Tube pre is a low cost, yet effective preamp.

Also, try backing off on the gain if you are doing a lot of heavy palm-muting. Crunch should come more from technique than the amp.
 
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