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mikedaul
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Between the studio projects tb-1 and the marshall v69me, which is the better mic for male vocals? Which is better for other apps (room mic, etc)? Are there any better tube choiced for around $300?
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chessparov
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"Better"=What works well on your voice, and/or the singer's voice you're recording.
Find a dealer who has a liberal return policy so you can try them at home.
Or just sell the one you don't like as much on e-bay for a small $$ loss, and
a large educational value gain.
Chris
Find a dealer who has a liberal return policy so you can try them at home.
Or just sell the one you don't like as much on e-bay for a small $$ loss, and
a large educational value gain.
Chris
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mikedaul
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Thanks for the reply, but I understand the general principal of "use whatever sounds best" - if I could afford to purchase both and compare I would do that. So I'll rephrase my question: Which mic will give me a higher quality of sound while recording male vocals, and perhaps as an auxillary mic as well.
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sfumato
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For about $100 more you can get a CAD M9. I have one which I have found to be excellent on some voices and when micing acoustic instruments as well as a few other things. The thing is really particular about placement, but once you have found the right spot it is a really nice mic. I do not own either of the two you asked about so I cannot really compare, but I would consider the CAD M9 as an option.
Bryan
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chessrock
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I think Groove Tubes has quite a respectable one at that price point, but I'm not sure of the model.
The CAD M9 would probably be about your best bet though, as fsumato mentions.
The CAD M9 would probably be about your best bet though, as fsumato mentions.
Light
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My question for you is, why a tube mic?
My point is, you seem to be looking for a nice vocal/general use LD mic. You dollars will go farther with a FET of other solid state mic than with a tube mic.
Light
"Cowards can never be moral."
M.K. Gandhi
My point is, you seem to be looking for a nice vocal/general use LD mic. You dollars will go farther with a FET of other solid state mic than with a tube mic.
Light
"Cowards can never be moral."
M.K. Gandhi
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jslator
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mikedaul said:
The answer is the same. It depends on the source. Which will give you a higher quality sound for playing rock guitar: a Les Paul or a Tele?
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c9-2001
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my guess is he's recording digital and wants a thick analog type sound that tubes came give.Light said:
i agree with you about the other mic choices though
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jslator
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c9-2001 said:
As opposed to the thin, digital sounds you get from FET condensors?
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c9-2001
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no but you can put a tube mic next to a fet mic and record and the tube mic usually has a nice thick sound with out eq.. i use fet mics but i have used tube mics in my home studio and had IMO cleaner results..jslator said:As opposed to the thin, digital sounds you get from FET condensors?
the main reason ppl use tube mics/preamps/consoles etc is for the warmth...
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jslator
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c9-2001 said:
I think you'd be really suprised if you listened to some of these things blindly. Check out the 3D Audio mic test CD's some time and (without cheating) try to pick out the tube mics. Or try the 3D Audio mic pre CD and try to pick out the tube pre's. I'm willing to bet your picks would be statistically no better than random.
FWIW, if you want "warmth", I'd recommend a ribbon mic.
Light
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c9-2001 said:
This may be conditionally true, but the condition is that the mics must be of equal quality. A tube mic will be inherently more expensive than an equal quality solid state mic. Hence my comment, your money will go farther with a solid state mic than a tube mic.
Besides, what most people think of as tube warmth is just distortion, as they have never heard really great tube gear.
If you want an "analog" sound, get a Fatso.
Light
"Cowards can never be moral."
M.K. Gandhi
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Tomcat
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I don't have and have never heard a V69me, but I own and have used for vocals both a Shure KSM27 and a Studio Projects TB-1. While I have absolutely no intention of getting rid of the KSM27, I have switched to using the TB-1 for my vocals because it is clearer, smoother, sits better in the mix and is more pleasing to me on my voice.
I will eventually get a V67b, a SP B1 and a SP B3 and maybe even a SP C1 and then will know more about what is available in vocal mics (in my price range; I'm retired, have limited funds and this is, after all, my hobby and not my profession).
Tom
I will eventually get a V67b, a SP B1 and a SP B3 and maybe even a SP C1 and then will know more about what is available in vocal mics (in my price range; I'm retired, have limited funds and this is, after all, my hobby and not my profession).
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track one
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tube mic
Have you tried thx Mxl V77 tube mic? I use it alot on R&B singers and deep voice rappers, its pretty good for the money!!!
Have you tried thx Mxl V77 tube mic? I use it alot on R&B singers and deep voice rappers, its pretty good for the money!!!
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faithful
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Ditto on getting the 3D Mic CD
There are all sorts of caveats with these types of things but it can really be helpful in finding where your tastes lie and finding a direction to head.
Jslator is right too in that many of the top shelf tube mics sound nothing like most people's preconceived notions about how a tube mic should sound.
Money very well spent in my opinion
Jason A
There are all sorts of caveats with these types of things but it can really be helpful in finding where your tastes lie and finding a direction to head.
Jslator is right too in that many of the top shelf tube mics sound nothing like most people's preconceived notions about how a tube mic should sound.
Money very well spent in my opinion
Jason A
Giganova
gimmi your mic!
good idea about the 3D Mic CD -- but 50 buxx is rather steep. Any place where the CD can be purchased for less??
Middleman
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mikedaul
What preamp would you be plugging the V69 into?
What preamp would you be plugging the V69 into?
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jslator
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Giganova said:
BTW, I wouldn't recommend making any purchase decisions based on something like that CD. It really only tells you what a particular mic sounded like on a particular source in a particular room through a particular pre on a particular day. It is excellent, though, for getting a broad feeling for the general sound of a bunch of great mics and for exploding a lot of myths about what certain types of mics sound like.
As far as price, it doesn't have very broad distribution so I doubt that you'd find a deal on it new. You might want to try posting a "wanted" ad on rec.audio.pro or on some of the other recording forums to find a used one.
MrZekeMan
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Re: tube mic
He's got two, and he has his extra, which is virtually new, for sale in the ads section right now for $250. You better jump on it if you want it.
Taylor
Harvey says this is a nice mic. He uses his a lot.track one said:
He's got two, and he has his extra, which is virtually new, for sale in the ads section right now for $250. You better jump on it if you want it.
Taylor
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Dot
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The TB-1 is a fairly neutral-sounding mic. Gives a little air and a little noticeable bass response. It's not especially smooth sounding.
The V69ME is a very colored and very warm tube mic.
Based on that, if you already have a strong, full voice - the TB-1 would be the better choice. If you have a thinner voice and are wanting to thicken the sound, then the V69ME is the better choice.
Dan Richards
Digital Pro Sound
The Listening Sessions
The V69ME is a very colored and very warm tube mic.
Based on that, if you already have a strong, full voice - the TB-1 would be the better choice. If you have a thinner voice and are wanting to thicken the sound, then the V69ME is the better choice.
Dan Richards
Digital Pro Sound
The Listening Sessions
