Boutique acoustics....Gimme a fucking break

[SHEPPARDB.]

I played one of these today
http://www.pantheonguitars.com/images_3/6091-3684front_big.jpg
and I dont mind saying that the maker has a lot to learn,before he
can get the asking price of $3400.

 

[Armistice]

For instance - never use a sunburst finish on an acoustic.... yuk!

 

[faderbug]

bourgeois guitars play and sound awesome.

 

[Light]

I played one of these today
http://www.pantheonguitars.com/images_3/6091-3684front_big.jpg
and I dont mind saying that the maker has a lot to learn,before he
can get the asking price of $3400.

Sorry, but I know Dana and his guitars quite well, and you, sir, are an idiot. You have no fucking clue what you are talking about. You may not LIKE his guitars, and that is certainly your choice, but his workmanship and design is as good as any small factory in the world.


Light

"Cowards can never be moral."
M.K. Gandhi

 

[SHEPPARDB.]

Sorry, but I know Dana and his guitars quite well, and you, sir, are an idiot. You have no fucking clue what you are talking about. You may not LIKE his guitars, and that is certainly your choice, but his workmanship and design is as good as any small factory in the world.


Light

"Cowards can never be moral."
M.K. Gandhi

Sorry assmuncher,but I do know what I am talking about.The fact that
you know him and his guitars means nothing to me.
When you see the guy again tell him that tone and volume are lacking
in his guitars.

 

[Light]

Sorry assmuncher,but I do know what I am talking about.The fact that
you know him and his guitars means nothing to me.
When you see the guy again tell him that tone and volume are lacking
in his guitars.

Ah, you poor deluded fool.

You see, TONE is a OPINION. You don't like it, and as I said, that is fine. But one thing every guitar builder has had to learn is that you can't do much about making everyone like the tone of your guitars. In fact, it is impossible. All you can do is do the best possible work, with very close attention to detail, and make a guitar that you as the builder like. Then you just have to hope others agree with you.

Workmanship however, that I can say with certainty; and Dana's guitars have it. Tone, well, I don't usually like to comment on that, but I think his are pretty nice. Not as good as the ones my dad makes, but pretty nice. (yeah, I'm a bit biased towards dad's guitars, go figure).

Oh, and more than a few extremely skilled and talented players are quite fond of Dana's guitars. Probably many of them are much better players than you (no, I am not disparaiging you with that comment).

So, if you don't want to pay for one of Dana's guitars, that is fine, but do not pretend that you have a clue as to what they are worth, as you clearly know less than nothing about guitar construction.

And with that, I am done responding to you, troll.


Light

"Cowards can never be moral."
M.K. Gandhi

 

[tc4b]

art

What's the point of bashing a craftsman with obscenity-laced tirades? If you don't like it, don't buy it. The guitar is not going to hurt you, just leave it there. You may not think those guitars are worth it, but others obviously do. And so what? Why are you self-righteous about your particular opinion? We're all just musicians, it's just a guitar, why the hostility? How about "Played one of these today, I didn't like it as much as some cheaper guitars." See? Opinion delievered without spite.

 

[gordone]

What didn't you like about it? The tone? The construction? Was the sunburst finish flawed?

Guitars are all very individual. I played a Martin HD35 yesterday and it didn't do anything for me tonewise. It cost well over $2000. Do I come on a Discussion group and start throwing vulgarities towards Martin? No, because I've played tons of Martins over the years and I know that some are good, some are great, and some are so-so. Same goes for the boutique builders. I've played a Goodall TROM which sounded very brash, but then I've played some Goodall parlors that made me cry they sounded so sweet.

I really think you're being unfair to Dana, as you aren't really specific in your complaints, and you've (apparently) only played one example of his.

Oh well, I can't wait to get out of work and play my "boutique" acoustic, a Santa Cruz OM/PW (or one of my Martins, Taylor, Guild, or Larrivee).

 

[mshilarious]

I like the irony of a guitar called "bourgeois" having a proletarian rectangle for a headstock and miserly little inlays.

 

[gordone]

Is this better? - Presentation Guitar - $9000

I like the irony of a guitar called "bourgeois" having a proletarian rectangle for a headstock and miserly little inlays.

 

[mrface2112]

I like the irony of a guitar called "bourgeois" having a proletarian rectangle for a headstock and miserly little inlays.

BWAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

and all the time i thought it was just me that found that ironic. glad to see i'm not the only one who's a little warped.


cheers,
wade

 

[XLR]

Hey Gordone, I just read your comment after I deleted my post. Had promised myself I wouldn't get bogged down in threads like this but got momentarily lured in, heh-heh. You're right. I wasn't reading the title, just the original post.

Tim

 

[gordone]

Doah! I removed my post after I saw your post removed since my comment didn't make any sense
3 hours until I can go home and bang away on my guitars!!!!

 

[nkjanssen]

For instance - never use a sunburst finish on an acoustic.... yuk!

Yah, Gibson J-45's are ugly as hell.

 

[Armistice]

Personal preference on the sunburst finish - only GIbson should ever apply them to anything - saw a PRS 10 top something or other with a cherry sunburst and it was just WRONG... so I'll give you the J-45

It does also seem to be a "parlour" guitar, so it ain't ever gonna be big on volume - doesn't mean it's a bad guitar.

Cheers

 

[gordone]

It's actually an "OM" style guitar, a bit bigger than your typical parlor. Equivalent in shape to a 14-fret 000, using the Martin nomenclature. I have two OM shaped guitars - my Larrivee OM03R and my Santa Cruz OM/PW. Despite their small size, they are pretty big on volume

I wish SHEPPARDB would tell us what he didn't like about the guitar. I've played a few Bourgeois's and I thought they were all pretty good. My local shop (Medley Music/Acoustic Roots) usually only has a couple of Dana's guitars on hand, but they always have a bunch of Goodalls, Collings, and Santa Cruz's, so I'm more familiar with the offerings of those brands (oh, and Martin too!)

 

[punkin]

Is this better? - Presentation Guitar - $9000

Too bad that guitar doesn't have a little somthin' to spruce up the fret board just a bit...a few inlays would be nice.

 

[SHEPPARDB.]

What's the point of bashing a craftsman with obscenity-laced tirades? If you don't like it, don't buy it. The guitar is not going to hurt you, just leave it there. You may not think those guitars are worth it, but others obviously do. And so what? Why are you self-righteous about your particular opinion? We're all just musicians, it's just a guitar, why the hostility? How about "Played one of these today, I didn't like it as much as some cheaper guitars." See? Opinion delievered without spite.

After reading you post I am going to agree with you that I should not have
said what I had to say the way that I did.It was mean spirited,and I'm sure
the guy takes pride in his art.I will stick to the comment about him having
a lot to learn.
To be fair,I thought that the guitar was beautifully crafted.It is a real piece
of eye candy.But looks are where it's appeal stops.When I mentioned tone,
I did'nt mean it had one that I did'nt care for,it had none,and a lot of it.
Nothing at all outstanding about it but the look.The price was offensive,
and I suppose that is why I was less than nice with the title of my thread.

Light would like to think that I am troll and that my opinion does'nt count.
The truth is that I have been playing for 27 years.I would think that a serious
luthier would consider my opinions.After all,I'm the the consumer that actually makes enough of a living to afford one of those hand crafted POS.

 

[Dogman]

I wouldn't pay that much for a guitar....Ok, I don't have that much...
I don't like the sunburst myself, and never held one of those.
And I got nothing....nothing at all...

 

[Outlaws]

Sorry, but I know Dana and his guitars quite well, and you, sir, are an idiot.

You get no respect for that one.