Bouncing Down??

[JimmyS1969]

Man - after reading this thread - I think I need to take a course in Cubase :X

Cuts and cross fades? I dunno what that crap is! Unless you just mean cutting up the wave file in the track? And cross fade - thats like fading one wave down in volume as another comes up in the same track right? I don;t think I have ever had any need for that...

Yeah, I get pretty damn anal about timing and background noise issues. When tightening drums or guitars, I use what is called 'slip editing'.

Say a part is played slightly early or late. For this example, an accent combining a kick hit/cymbal choke and a bass note. The last bass hit is late. In the arrange window, select the event (waveform of the area to be fixed). Use the cut tool to slice before and after the late bass note. Select that section (left click). Hold down Ctrl and Alt, hold left click and slide the waveform to the left until the part is in time. You will soon learn specifically where to make the cuts after playing with it awhile (if moving left, the cut needs to be placed slightly earlier to allow the 'slip' to move to desired place).

In most cases, especially when there is a sharp change in the waveform, this will introduce a 'click' in the audio. Hold Ctrl and left click the events on either side of moved section to highlight them. Then hit Ctrl X (shortcut for crossfade). Now the 'click' will be gone. Well, usually. I will actually do all of the slip edits first on whole track, then select the whole thing and do all crossfades at once. It is very important then to listen to the track closely, usually solo'd in headphones, to make sure there are no clicks or double notes or whatever, before bouncing the track. After you bounce, you can always fix more. Bounce in this case is used to 'clean up' the mess.

Make sure that if you have multiple sources for say the bass (direct, mic 1, mic 2), that you place them in a folder and 'group edit' them. Not sure how this works in earlier versions but all bass tracks would need to be selected and slip edited at the same time or extreme chaos would result.

This might seem a bit complicated at first, but it becomes second nature very quickly.

Happy slippin!

Jimmy

 

[arcadeko]

Yeah, I get pretty damn anal about timing and background noise issues. When tightening drums or guitars, I use what is called 'slip editing'.

Say a part is played slightly early or late. For this example, an accent combining a kick hit/cymbal choke and a bass note. The last bass hit is late. In the arrange window, select the event (waveform of the area to be fixed). Use the cut tool to slice before and after the late bass note. Select that section (left click). Hold down Ctrl and Alt, hold left click and slide the waveform to the left until the part is in time. You will soon learn specifically where to make the cuts after playing with it awhile (if moving left, the cut needs to be placed slightly earlier to allow the 'slip' to move to desired place).

In most cases, especially when there is a sharp change in the waveform, this will introduce a 'click' in the audio. Hold Ctrl and left click the events on either side of moved section to highlight them. Then hit Ctrl X (shortcut for crossfade). Now the 'click' will be gone. Well, usually. I will actually do all of the slip edits first on whole track, then select the whole thing and do all crossfades at once. It is very important then to listen to the track closely, usually solo'd in headphones, to make sure there are no clicks or double notes or whatever, before bouncing the track. After you bounce, you can always fix more. Bounce in this case is used to 'clean up' the mess.

Make sure that if you have multiple sources for say the bass (direct, mic 1, mic 2), that you place them in a folder and 'group edit' them. Not sure how this works in earlier versions but all bass tracks would need to be selected and slip edited at the same time or extreme chaos would result.

This might seem a bit complicated at first, but it becomes second nature very quickly.

Happy slippin!

Jimmy

Cool - OK - I have done something like this occasionally - usually its with vocal tracks, where I will splice in a piece from a previous chorus over a bad note in a different part of the song - I usually just try yo take if from two silent parts - so I can use the crossfade to clean up the seams if I have a rough transition

- cool man thanks

 

[Bendrix]

Does bouncing down also apply the effects that are on the channel? I recently started using bounce selection to merge tracks that had been chopped up for editing purposes. I hope that I haven't applied reverb to a track multiple times if I've bounced it a few times with the effects button on.

I'm using Cubase LE 4. Ancient, I know. But it's all I need, for now.

 

[Kideverything]

Hey guys... I have been mixing for 2 years now and have never used the bounce down feature. I have been just burning through CPU usage all this time, running multiple plugins on upwards of 40 tracks at once.

Here is the issue... I am going to start my first bounce down tonight, but I am a PAN whore... I love to pan all over the place, and even have some tracks switch there panning with automation. I feel like I am constantly changing where things are panned to make room in the mix. Does bouncing a selection effect my panning??

If I group multiple "blended" guitar tracks together (1 is a dynamic mic panned about 35 Left and the other, a condenser panned about 20 right) and bounce them into 1 guitar track, will it create a stereo track where I can no longer control the panning of these tracks?