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How decent are the mic pre's in the behringer mixers? I was considering getting an additional pre like the art tps or maybe one of the m-audio pre's.would they be much better than the internal mic pre's inside the mixer? thanks
 
Well, let's put it this way - they function.

An M-Audio DMP3 will be much better than the pre's in most if not all Behringer mixers. I have a Behri MX1604 (which they had to discontinue after a lawsuit from Mackie even though it's nowhere near as good as a Mackie 1604) that I only use for rehearsal purposes.
 
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i use the same one as the guy ontop of me said and ye it is discontinued but they're farely decent for the money..yes the mackie one is wayyyyyy better.....:)
 
I have 2 Behringer mixers. One stays home - SL3242FX Pro, and one goes out on small/medium gigs - PMH3000.

The second is a powered model and I have not had any trouble with the pre's at all. Anything I have thrown at it works fine.

Same for the one at home if you are only using dynamic mics. For the condenser mic, a Behringer B-2 Pro, I bought the Behringer VX2496 Ultra Voice Digital and that sorted out the preamp for main vocals etc instantly. The home mixer is powered by the Behringer EW2500 amp. The home unit also has the Behringer HA4700 Headphone amp as well.

Just to show I buy other brands, the monitors are M-Audio BX5's + M-Audio SBX Subwoofer. (Man that thing kicks ass for the price). A Fostex VF80EX multitracker for mobile recording. M-Audio Delta 66 in the custom built DAW with 1GB RAM and dual HD's that handle all the major work in Cubase SX once it is all layered from the input of the mixers or the multitracker.

I know it is not cool/hip/whatever to own Behringer. And I have read enough threads to understand why. But, all that said, I am happy with what I have from them - which amounts to a fair listing.

Hope this helps.

Cheers. :D
 
Are we talking UB or MX series here? The UB mixers have better pres in them. A lot less noisy and fairly transparent. They aren't great, but they're usable, the DMP-3 will probably blow these out of the water. Honestly I would have been quite happy with the behri mixers I own if they didn't keep dropping a function every other week before finally crapping out completely. The toggle switches for power and phantom power are absolute crap, I've had 3 out of 4 on my mixers go (yes, when the power one goes you can't turn the unit on anymore :mad: )You get what you pay for.
 
I have the MX802A mixer and the pres did their job fine, but the sound quality was never that great. Since I've moved on to other budget pres (DMP3, VTB-1), the difference in my recordings is very evident. The Behringer pres just sound dull and lifeless compared to my stand-alone pres.
 
dolecek1 said:
How decent are the mic pre's in the behringer mixers? I was considering getting an additional pre like the art tps or maybe one of the m-audio pre's.would they be much better than the internal mic pre's inside the mixer? thanks
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Please let me know if you're you still reading this thread and would like more comments?
 
...... (an excerpt from the mind of a broke man). about behringer preamps.....I like it cause its all i got. I use it cause its all i can afford...is there better? yes. are there affordable pres that are better? yes. so why didnt i buy the yamaha pres instead of the behringer ones?....i didnt like the idea of having a blue mixer...kinda looks fake. its growing on me though. if the mixer was light grey, dark grey, gun metal, black, white, silver.....i woulda jumped on it. my idea of how something should look got in the way of my wanting of quality and i got stuck with behringer.
 
yes iam reading this thread..lol i dont even have a mic yet but when i do order my mic im gonna order a pre at the same time, if i need a better pre.just tryin to cover all my basis especially since iam a poor bastard
 
better to be a poor respected bastard...go with a yamaha pre lol or m-audio dmp3 if you only need 1 or 2 pres
 
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yes iam reading this thread..lol i dont even have a mic yet but when i do order my mic im gonna order a pre at the same time, if i need a better pre.just tryin to cover all my basis especially since iam a poor bastard
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Ok... the budget Behringer mixer preamps are pretty much the bottom of the bucket. The M-Audio DMP3 is a much better preamp... and you most likely won't sell it later... even after you have some higher-end preamps, you'll most likely still find uses for the DMP3.

"How decent are the mic pre's in the behringer mixers?"

They're pretty much the bottom of the bucket... but, they're better than nothing.

"I was considering getting an additional pre like the art tps or maybe one of the m-a udio pre's."

That's a good idea... I recommend the M-Audio DMP3.

"would they be much better than the internal mic pre's inside the mixer?"

Yes, the M-Audio DMP3 is a better preamp.
 
Definitely go with a DMP3 over the Behringer. And if you need the functionality of a mixer, the small Yamahas are the way to go in that price range.

A couple of years ago I upgraded from a Behringer mixer to a DMP3. Here are my comments posted at that time on "Studio Forums" :

"Very interesting. I noticed some differences between it and my mixer immediately. The DMP3 is rounder and warmer sounding, and as Soulsamurai put it "musical in an uncolored way". It does not have the harshness the B-mixer has on the high notes of the acoustic guitar, and it has reduced sibilance in my vocals. In fact, I think I may have unjustifiably blamed a mic (which I then returned) for too much sibilance, when it may have been the mixer. Some of the sound issues that I spent hours on trying to correct are now gone. The DMP3 sounds better right out of the box than my heavily labored over tracks using the B-mixer."

There are also numerous comments from others if you care to read the whole thread:

http://studioforums.com/eve/ubb.x/a/tpc/f/1526095781/m/5426018891/p/1
 
Just my opinion...

I too was concerned about behringer's preamps, so I had my engineer put it to the test. I picked up a behringer UB502 - a tiny one-channel mixer - that cost me about $80. My engineer put it through his equipment, and said it was good enough to go to air. And considering I work in a large market radio station, I'd say that's pretty good.

FYI - I am using it solely for spoken word - commercial voiceovers, narration, etc... and need my produced sound to be broadcast quality. I've been using it for 4 months so far, and all of my freelance clients say they're impressed with the sound I produce.
 
Yeah, like I say, there's nothing really wrong with the pre's in UB mixers. They put gain on a mic signal without significant noise or distortion. I did a blind A/B poll once with a behri mixer and pre's from a Digidesign Mbox and it was 50/50. Again, my big issue with behri equipment isn't really the sound quality as much as the utter lack of reliability.
 
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