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trebles
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Evilphil
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Behringer mixer...
I'm an extreme novice at recording. I want to get into sound engineering hardcore, and at the time I purchased my Eurodesk, I was so stoked that I'd have something (although I know it's not the best), that at least I could get some sound through the focker. We have a PC setup in a smokey, alcohol laden dusty "studio" at my friends work, and we love the fact that we have the ability to lay a track down in that environment. We have the full ability to multitrack with Sonar, and the mixer... Although it may not sound GREAT, that's not the idea. We're doin this for fun, and trust me, we're having a great time doing it. Purchases like the Behringer mixer are what make us walk out of the music store without regret cause we know that even if the mixer get's jacked up, it was a piece of a mixer anyways... But you have to admit, $250 for 12 channels isn't to shabby...
I'm an extreme novice at recording. I want to get into sound engineering hardcore, and at the time I purchased my Eurodesk, I was so stoked that I'd have something (although I know it's not the best), that at least I could get some sound through the focker. We have a PC setup in a smokey, alcohol laden dusty "studio" at my friends work, and we love the fact that we have the ability to lay a track down in that environment. We have the full ability to multitrack with Sonar, and the mixer... Although it may not sound GREAT, that's not the idea. We're doin this for fun, and trust me, we're having a great time doing it. Purchases like the Behringer mixer are what make us walk out of the music store without regret cause we know that even if the mixer get's jacked up, it was a piece of a mixer anyways... But you have to admit, $250 for 12 channels isn't to shabby...
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Randy Yell
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First Id like to say that I am not a Behringer basher as I have a mixer(MXB2002,not bad for $120)and a pair of ECM8000's(great mic for the money).
That said,I havnt used the Ultravoice(Behringer does love the Ultra word)but I would think that a unit that offers so many features at that price has to have some serious limitations.Myself,I use the M-Audio Audio Buddy for my main preamp and at around $80 for two channels I think it is one of the true equipment bargains available(right up there with the ECM8000's).Extremely transparent and clean,it (IM very sure)cant compare to high budget preamps but it will blow away anything anywhere close to its price range.I think you would be better off with an Audio Buddy and a seperate compressor.If you cant afford a RNS a Autocom Pro ($80) would do the trick.You wont have all the bells and whistles as with the Ultravoice but the bells and whistles wont be mucking up your signal either.
The next thing(and what got me to post)was Jeroleen post thet rock and roll is for the young.Screw that!!!I am hardly what you could call youthfull(47)but my music of choice is still and will always be rock and roll.I started listening to Elvis when I was about 5yo,went to the Beatles,hendrix,Cream,Zep etc and got into punk and have ridden the wave of rock and roll for almost fifty years.I still like some contemporary rockers but I see too much of the flavor of the minute,all the trends now are controlled by MTV and the suits who run the bussiness decideing what the public"wants" to hear.Rock and roll isnt an age thing but is about rebellion and feeling good.So turn it up Jeroleen,spark one up and enjoy the music of your choice,remember that in no way does it diminish the music to have old farts like me digging on it and someday you will be older and (if your like me)you will still like to turn it up.You may age but rock and roll is forever!!
That said,I havnt used the Ultravoice(Behringer does love the Ultra word)but I would think that a unit that offers so many features at that price has to have some serious limitations.Myself,I use the M-Audio Audio Buddy for my main preamp and at around $80 for two channels I think it is one of the true equipment bargains available(right up there with the ECM8000's).Extremely transparent and clean,it (IM very sure)cant compare to high budget preamps but it will blow away anything anywhere close to its price range.I think you would be better off with an Audio Buddy and a seperate compressor.If you cant afford a RNS a Autocom Pro ($80) would do the trick.You wont have all the bells and whistles as with the Ultravoice but the bells and whistles wont be mucking up your signal either.
The next thing(and what got me to post)was Jeroleen post thet rock and roll is for the young.Screw that!!!I am hardly what you could call youthfull(47)but my music of choice is still and will always be rock and roll.I started listening to Elvis when I was about 5yo,went to the Beatles,hendrix,Cream,Zep etc and got into punk and have ridden the wave of rock and roll for almost fifty years.I still like some contemporary rockers but I see too much of the flavor of the minute,all the trends now are controlled by MTV and the suits who run the bussiness decideing what the public"wants" to hear.Rock and roll isnt an age thing but is about rebellion and feeling good.So turn it up Jeroleen,spark one up and enjoy the music of your choice,remember that in no way does it diminish the music to have old farts like me digging on it and someday you will be older and (if your like me)you will still like to turn it up.You may age but rock and roll is forever!!
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silverstrings
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If your playing sucks,and your song sucks, it will suck on a Neve.
But if you can play,and write, and know how to record
trust me it will sound good on a 4 track casette.
But if you can play,and write, and know how to record
trust me it will sound good on a 4 track casette.
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chessrock
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Behringer is a God-send . . .
When I think of companies in the pro audio industry who have revolutionized the playing field by offering superior bang-for-buck performers, a few companies come to mind . . .
Joemeek, for one. Mackie. M-audio. Studio Projects. FMR-audio.
Behringer, however, tops my list hands-down.
When Harvey said that Behringer "may have taken" the lead in bang-for-buck mics, I considered that quite the understatement.
The C1 is a great mic for the price at $230. Yet, for $30 less, you can get Behringer's B2. The B2 has a bass rolloff, an extra diaphragm, a -10db pad, and it's multi-directional. Having the choice of pickup patterns is like getting an extra microphone. Basically, it is an exact replica of the Rode NT-2. As much as I like the C1, I think it would be awfully tough to pass up what is essentially an NT2 for $30 less.
Need I even mention the value you get with the ECM-8000, which is similar to the Earthworks models, and sounds remarkably good for a measley $35?
And now, I hear they are coming out with the B1, which should be an even cheaper single-diaphragm version of the B2. If that sells within the $100 range like I'm guessing, then there's your leader in bang-for-buck mics.
Then there's the composer, which is basically a ripoff of the Drawmer compressors. These things go for like $80! If the reverse-engineering brings these anywhere close to the quality of the Drawmer units, then how can you even justify buying an RNC?!! Yes, the RNC is: a) twice the price, b) doesn't have a limiter and c) doesn't have a gate. Shit, the gate and limiter alone should be at least worth the $80, even if the compressor sucks! And I've heard they're quite good!
Add to the list their cheap D.I. boxes, patch-bays, etc., and the cheapskate home recorder should be bowing down and kissing the feet of the mighty B.
But no, someone bought a B mixer, and it sucked. Boo-hoo. Just buy a Mackie and get over it.
When I think of companies in the pro audio industry who have revolutionized the playing field by offering superior bang-for-buck performers, a few companies come to mind . . .
Joemeek, for one. Mackie. M-audio. Studio Projects. FMR-audio.
Behringer, however, tops my list hands-down.
When Harvey said that Behringer "may have taken" the lead in bang-for-buck mics, I considered that quite the understatement.
The C1 is a great mic for the price at $230. Yet, for $30 less, you can get Behringer's B2. The B2 has a bass rolloff, an extra diaphragm, a -10db pad, and it's multi-directional. Having the choice of pickup patterns is like getting an extra microphone. Basically, it is an exact replica of the Rode NT-2. As much as I like the C1, I think it would be awfully tough to pass up what is essentially an NT2 for $30 less.
Need I even mention the value you get with the ECM-8000, which is similar to the Earthworks models, and sounds remarkably good for a measley $35?
And now, I hear they are coming out with the B1, which should be an even cheaper single-diaphragm version of the B2. If that sells within the $100 range like I'm guessing, then there's your leader in bang-for-buck mics.
Then there's the composer, which is basically a ripoff of the Drawmer compressors. These things go for like $80! If the reverse-engineering brings these anywhere close to the quality of the Drawmer units, then how can you even justify buying an RNC?!! Yes, the RNC is: a) twice the price, b) doesn't have a limiter and c) doesn't have a gate. Shit, the gate and limiter alone should be at least worth the $80, even if the compressor sucks! And I've heard they're quite good!
Add to the list their cheap D.I. boxes, patch-bays, etc., and the cheapskate home recorder should be bowing down and kissing the feet of the mighty B.
But no, someone bought a B mixer, and it sucked. Boo-hoo. Just buy a Mackie and get over it.
Speeddemon
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ahh..this is how you do it
Jeez, with all these less informational replies, I could get my senior tag much sooner as well. (That's why this try....
)
Anyway some are spot on:
If you suck, Neve won't make it better. Neve will bring out your suckyness better than an ART tube MP
If you're 'Bob Rock', you probably CAN make a Tascam 414 MK I sound reasonably well, not to say damn fine.
Behringer gets trashed by comparisons with big buck stuff. That makes it clear to me that some of the owners of big buck stuff are a bit 'jealous/afraid/??' that the Behringer stuff has quite some options for its price.
I'm not saying the big buck stuff is bad at all, but I AM saying it's not fair to compare a $200 B-2 mic with a $2000 Neumann.
And besides, I'm a bit wary of putting a U-87 in my bed-room, when it's likely to pick up the neighbour's dogs (4 f*cka's!!!!), the crying babies and the birds... (maybe i should relocate my bedroom-studio 
)
Anyway, I'm 1 post closer to "Senior-dom"
cheerz,
Speedy
Jeez, with all these less informational replies, I could get my senior tag much sooner as well. (That's why this try....
)Anyway some are spot on:
If you suck, Neve won't make it better. Neve will bring out your suckyness better than an ART tube MP
If you're 'Bob Rock', you probably CAN make a Tascam 414 MK I sound reasonably well, not to say damn fine.
Behringer gets trashed by comparisons with big buck stuff. That makes it clear to me that some of the owners of big buck stuff are a bit 'jealous/afraid/??' that the Behringer stuff has quite some options for its price.
I'm not saying the big buck stuff is bad at all, but I AM saying it's not fair to compare a $200 B-2 mic with a $2000 Neumann.
And besides, I'm a bit wary of putting a U-87 in my bed-room, when it's likely to pick up the neighbour's dogs (4 f*cka's!!!!), the crying babies and the birds...
(maybe i should relocate my bedroom-studio )Anyway, I'm 1 post closer to "Senior-dom"
cheerz,
Speedy
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LongWaveStudio
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personally, i think their composer compressor is awesome. to me, i dont care how much it cost, it's more about the sound of it. too many people just care about the price and think it's crap. i use composers along side hi-end stuff like focusrites and urei and whatever, and i treat it like one of those.
there is nothing wrong with behringer really, ok, build quality , there may be something to talk about there. but within their product line, there is a LOT of useable stuff, even in the pro world.
people need to start opening their ears and forget the prices.
there is nothing wrong with behringer really, ok, build quality , there may be something to talk about there. but within their product line, there is a LOT of useable stuff, even in the pro world.
people need to start opening their ears and forget the prices.