BEHRINGER Ulta voice pro

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I’ve got a B. patchbay and a B. dual preamp. First thing: B. is kitsch! They suck in quality control and they are kitsch kitsch kitsch!

The pre-amp that I have (I don’t know the name), Is supposed to be a tube amp. It does indeed have a tube! With three leds behind the tube that slowly start glowing when you turn the unit on (kitsch) faking that it is a tube warming up.

How does it sound?

Good, very good I must say.

Not both channels of course, quality control is absent, and we have to pay the price somewhere.

You don’t buy a calibrated stereo pair if you buy a B.

It does however sound good (at least one of the channels).

Jan
 
I encourage people to get started with whatever they can afford. As said before, the challenge isn't to make a great recording with half-a-million dollars in studio equipment, it's to make a decent recording with whatever you've got on hand, even if it's just a cassette deck with microphone inputs and a couple of inexpensive dynamic mics.

I think it's great that people here will tell us which Behringer units they've tried, and of those, which have performed satisfactorily and which have not. With the recent price cuts on almost all Behringer products in the US, I've looked more than once at the UltraGain Pro ($170) and the UltraVoice ($130) as possible stop-gap alternatives to waiting to get a better unit. I'd love to know what people's experience is with these two units especially, as well as the super-cheap "Shark," which claims to do everything to a mic input except sing the song for you for a whopping $70!

The ECM 8000 mics seem to be real stand-outs. Are there other Behringer products you can recommend from experience? I'm not suggesting that they have to sound totally great, but which units do the job in a reasonably musical way?

Thanks for sharing your experiences (good and bad) with all of us!

Mark H.
 
ive got a pro studio, and i have have some Composers in the rack. i know a lot of pro's who are using composers and i know a lot of people who use the intelligates.
i think the composer is a pretty cool compressor, definitely value for money aswell. the composer is used HEAVILY in live sound. ive seen em in the racks for oasis, stereophonics, manic street preachers, lots of brit bands (not sure about us..). i know that Garbage's producer favours them big time. there's a thing about him on the behringer website.
ive got some of the patchbays too which i haven't had a problem with.
 
I know ive already covered this but there always seems to be a critical glitch cast upon Behringer EVERYTIME thers a post on Behringer products.

Consider this you buy a mixer for 69 dollars equiv or less then what radio shack may charge you and probably a dam side better then the radioshack product and look what happens people winge and whine about how bad behringer is etc

YOU are not purchasing Neve, ssl, api,trident.yamaha,soundcraft,or mackie you are purchasing Behringer and it would seem some of their product dont stack up to the above but were they ever ment too?

Or where they more made to fill a hole in the market in the afordable gear section where most of us seem to be looking to buy gear?

They are are a big company or so it seems and i am sure they are not in business to lose business they have cut a large margin on their product line and id say I for one am willing to see whats good and what not if i can buy a compressor of them which can get close to what maybe an rnc is like or a similar compressor for such little money would i not be a fool then to forget about buying their product just because so many will say its bad ?

i think we all have to get over this lets knock Behringer and just look at their product spec more carefull if you have a gripe write to them iam sure their r&d people will want tohear your constructive views after all this only assists them to become better and you the consumer to get a better deal now dont this seem like a better way to go ?
 
I'm with trebles. Maybe the best thing is to try when you buy and make sure there is a liberal return policy. I don't need to walk around with swooshes on my shoes, but I do like them to fit well.

Has anyone had any experience with the Behringer magician? It sure seems to be a solution ready made for the performance mixer "harsh preamp" syndrome. I have a Mackie CFX mixer, which is great as long as you don't think you're running a three thousand dollar board. The preamps are a little harsh, and I've been thinking about a magician to wire in through the inserts to warm up the mic signals a little. I would use little or no other effects other than a basic reverb or a little chorus (acoustic band and vocals, mostly). Any compressor needs could probably be channel specific anyway. The Magician seems like a good idea. Any thoughts?
 
This is in reply to what Treble wrote about Rock
& Roll being of days long gone by whilst persons such as Treble hang on, and on, and on...Anyway, there is a book by John Strausbaugh called "Rock Til You Drop" that thoroughly covers the subject. My comment is simply this, it is not Rock & Roll that is either gone or past or over, it is simply that as one grows older, thier orientation necessarily changes. Rock & Roll is for and of youth and rightfully so. As you go through life, your musical life should mature right along with the rest of your life. There is always a need for music, an especially good music. And, after all, that is the point of any music gear, to give us the facility to make good music that we can share with each other. Ommmmmmmmmmm Baby! or is that Hommmmmmmme Baby!
 
hmmmmmm well to a degree yes but theres is always more to a story that may never be told i know the likes of who made it and and who didnt and not much changes today if music was really to be what was liked by the people then it should be the choice of the people but as usual its all industry dominated its what they want you to see and hear and not much changes the people who really deserve to be up there to me are more the type of what cult legend is born from not this sappy excuse for putting 6 teen white boys behind mics who think their really black dress them in shitty designer threads and make them sing moanfull crap which appeals to under 14 yrs teen girls ahhhhhhhhhh enough said flame me i dont care i know better ive been there and done that

the likes of bands like bigstar radio birdman the flaming groovies, the stooges and mc5 were the people who rocked my world and anyone who knew them knows what iam talking about o well time for bed zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
 
It’s weird but nobody managed to give an answer to the question of this topic.

Does anyone have specific experience with the Ultra Voice Pro.

For what I can see they cloned something like the Focusrite Voicemaster, but it might be a good clone?

My experience with Behringer is that the quality of their units differs greatly even between one patch.

My dealer will however let me try several units before buying one.

Any serious experiences would be welcome. Maybe the de-esser is crap but the compressor good and the tube simulator harsh but the preamp ok?

I don’t know, but the unit is cheep and might come in handy if you want to record lots of vocals

I would be interested to hear of someone’s experiences or hear of reviews that have been done on the unit.

Thanks,

Jan
 
I am using a ulta-voice pro, a composer, and the virtulizer and have been very pleased with all three. Of course I am a novice recording engineer but I have over the last 15 years used and played through many different setups so I do have some experience. I am also working on a budget and that pretty much makes the decision easy.
 
I bought some new stuff yesterday:

Rode NTK
AKG C2000B (I already had one)
Focusrite Trackmaster
Behringer Composer Pro

I made a deal with the music shop that I can swap what I don’t like

I’ll keep you informed. I still have to hook things up and start testing.
 
Hey what ever gets you by, But!!

I have had 6 or 7 guitar amps in my life. If I had saved and bought a marshall stack when I knew I should I would have saved thousands of dollars.

Just food for thought.


We get what we can when we can and hope for the best.

If you yell "I don't really care for mini vans" in a crouded wall mart you will make it out alive.
If you yell "mini vans Suck!" you may be beaten about the head and shoulders by a large pack of soccer moms.
 
So far I like my new gear except for the Track Master which sounded to thin by my humble opinion.

I swapped it for a VC6Q which will come next week

The NTK seems to have less proximity effect then my other mics (I like proximity effect). The combination with the Track Master was not satisfactory. We’ll see what happens if I plug it into the VC6Q.

BTW, I just read on Joe Meeks web page that the VC6Q is discontinued. I wonder if I should wait for the new model.
 
To the guy that said behringer = crap. I don't agree with you at all! Behringer makes some great stuff, cheap. Like their ECM 8000's. Behringer really isn't too bad.
 
NOthing gets a rise out of this audience more than the wor Behringer. Everytime someone bring it up, there is sure to follow lots of posts. So, here is mine. Its the music, not the equipment that counts the most. For home project studios, most people are simply trying to get an accurate representation of what they will ultimately sound like give the chance to make a full blown, professional finished product. So, like other have pointed out many times before, "good" in this context is subjective and situational.
 
Good call Jeroleen. I personally wouldnt use Behringer stuff (not that i'm on a huge budget). But i can see how those who cant afford much else would have the need for it, when quality isnt that important.
 
Everything you do requires

B A L A N C E

Too much cash spent in one area will leave you dry in other areas

although i do agree up to a point with Jeroleen about the music and performance being more important then what its all played on i still say balance is still required here as well

eg you may be able to buy a second hand guitar and if you know what your doing end up with a top guitar for not much money this does happen

but if you skimp out on getting good leads and other essentials dont matter how good you think you are its all going to sound pretty terrible

so it all comes down to this its nice to aspire to great heights but if you can only climb half way your wasting your time trying to build up something you wont fully realise for only a half baked performance


Buy what you need now to get the job done not everything you
consider cool

A whole rack of high end mic pres may look and sound good so would a closet full of top end mics but if you cannot utilise them all then the money you have spent is wasted acquire what uyou need as you need it not everything you want as you see it .
 
Geez...Nobody has even answered the original question!

Is this a place to help fellow musicians or not? The guy had a specific question...so cut the bull!

Ultra Voice Pro...I use one and it works GREAT. It is a low noise, multi-featured, mic preamp. All of the signal chains do what they're supposed to and can be individually egaged via the in/out buttons. It is well laid out and solid construction. As with any preamp, sure...you can make it sound bad with excessive settings. But any sensible settings sound great.

All in all... it competes well within the other preamps in the price range...with some extra goodies to boot. Unless you go up over the $500 price range I don't think you'll find anything else to match what you're getting for your money.

I also own a Behringer Virtualizer...I agree, the front panel settings are a real pain...if you really want to control and tweak the settings do it via the MIDI interface. This thing is fantastic! Lush reverbs...cool harmonizer...and a lot more good FX.

If anyone knows of a better preamp in the < $200 price range share your opinions with the guy that posted the original topic...I think that's what these forums are really for.
 
Ahh i do think it has been answered yes in many different ways and styles as well.

Although no one seemed to initally say yes i own one yes its great etc etc etc and give example to why it was so, the answer in a round about way was answered.

To keep any post focused, the original authour really needs to take control early on in the piece, and if what is being said is not to their approval then one needs to re direct the question in the thread so the audience or readers/members/contributers can answer it in a way they will feel more content with.

heres an example of a guy telling you he has used a great deal of their products and then posting his views

I am using a ulta-voice pro, a composer, and the virtulizer and have been very pleased with all three. Of course I am a novice recording engineer but I have over the last 15 years used and played through many different setups so I do have some experience. I am also working on a budget and that pretty much makes the decision easy.

i feel if someone wants a more analytical view point they really need to look for technicial reviews on specfic product no one here
has those specs independent reviews and product comparisons are out there your browser is a great place to start searching from thats how most of us find our info out at least the ones who share their info do :-)
 
Dam, i cant beleive this thread is still around. Well everyone that had a Ulta voice pro said it was good. Everybody that never used or own said "it sucks" ( bashing behringer bandwagon)
Ill take that idea someone said - find out the return policy.

Behringer owner-detuned6.
 
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