behringer, the whipping boy

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The headphone output on my behringer mixer gave up this weekend. Which sucks, cause now I only have one headphone output left (on my VS1880)... I need at least 2, so now I have to repair the behringer. Which doesn't seem to be worth it, so I figure I'll just build my own headphone distribution amp. :cool:

But from now on I hate behringer mixers too... Put me on the list.
 
To sum up:

A lot of people have posted that they own or use Behringer Boards and have seen them break or components fail after an unreasonably short time.

A lot of other people have posted that they also own Behringer boards and haven't had any trouble with them.

Conclusion: Either Behringer boards are prone to failures and if yours hasn't failed it may just mean that it hasn't failed YET. Or Behringer's quality control is terrible so that a lot of faulty boards get sold to the public, in which case you may or may not experience a failure. Judging by the almost even PRO/ANTI Behringer split it would seem however that if this is the case then the failure rate must be at least 30%.
 
Both ways suck! If it's a quality control issue, you've got a good chance of failure, considering the parts-count of a mixer. And if they are prone to fail, it's even worse, 'cause this would mean that after it gets repaired, it's just a matter of time before it goes down again!

Anyway, I'll be fixing the grrrrrrrrr... soon. I'll see how good/bad it's guts is, and let y'all know if i remember to...
 
I don't know whether it's split in half on those who like/dislike Behringer mixers (most threads have indicated a stong displeasure on Behringer mxrs).
However, what sense does it make to purchase a gear knowing it's propensity for breaking down! Why would an indvidual buy THAT mixer when most indications at not just this board but other boards on the web show
that you never know if your Beh mixer will 50% certainly crap out on you.
I owned a BRAND-NEW mx2624 and that piece of shit's power supply blew out after only 1 1/2 weeks of operation!
IMHO, Behringer Mixers All SUCK!!!!!!!
 
Must Be nice

Must be nice to have the money to buy a Mackie 1604 VLZ PRO. Haven't seen many under $920.00
I bought my Behringer MX2004A for $269.00 at Guitar center. It hasn't blown up, the power supply is still fine, the pots aren't scratchy and it's generally done everything I've asked of it.
Once I have the money for the aforementioned Mackie 1604, i will go ahead and get it. But should I have waited the 3 months to get the Mackie or was getting a pretty good mixer with a lot of channels (at least for my needs) a bad idea?
C'mon guys. Not all of us have the scratch right off to go and get the "great" gear that is out there. As a matter of fact, what does happen when you do get the "great" mixer as a newbie? Well, you can't afford the gear to run through it and your going to buy cheap cables from Radio Shack 'cause you're broke after buying the damned mixer!
I've been playing "electronic music" now for 8 months, and I'm going to get the "great mixer". For a newbie on a budget, Behringer gives anyone the opportunity to at least get started.
Unless you are rich/ lucky/ or both, you don't start with the best gear. You work up to it.
Fine Behringer sucks. I'll just be THAT more excited when I finally can afford a "decent" mixer.
Peace
Kariem
 
My point has nothing to do with price when it comes to mixers. I am only referring to reliability which Behringer doesn't provide in it's mixers nor their customer service.
If you was looking for a decent economical small mixer,
you could have checked the new line of Nady's, which are less than the Brgr's or even Peavy's. Heck, you could have gotten a decent used 1604 fro about 400 on
e-bay!
But if you're happy with your mixer, than I'm happy for you!
Peace
Mr.Q
 
as a guy in a shop told me once-behringer are up to 3 times cheaper than something the same in mackie,somethings gotta be wrong
 
And I bet they outsell Mackie 5 to 1 to, judging from the stacks of disappearing Behringer boxes at my local Guitar Center.

I think it has been established that Behringer are not the pillar of audio craftmanship. But I wonder if the reason that so many people have problems with them is because there are way more of them in use out there? I mean, if something breaks you post things about it. If it works fine you rarely think about.

Just an idea...
 
I may be lucky but I am cirtainly not rich. I just know how to spend and save. my car could use a lot of minor work but I only paid $1.00. You just have to shop smart. why spend so much on one piece of equipment when it isn't the only link in the chain.
 
I'll give you $2.00. How can you refuse,that's double ya money there;)
 
rayn_man said:
I may be lucky but I am cirtainly not rich. I just know how to spend and save. my car could use a lot of minor work but I only paid $1.00. You just have to shop smart. why spend so much on one piece of equipment when it isn't the only link in the chain.
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Because you mixer is the CENTER of your studio. Buy cheap, buy twice!

In order of importance:

Mics
Monitors
Mixer

Notice that the first two have to do with actual mechanical conversions in audio! The third is what ties that together. Everything else is a matter of "shades".

Ed
 
Quote:
"Because you mixer is the CENTER of your studio. Buy cheap, buy twice!

In order of importance:

Mics
Monitors
Mixer "

Instruments? What about the actual sound MAKING hardware (or software). Buy cheap buy twice? Yes, of course. I didn't start by riding a mountain bike. I started on a cheap Huffy with training wheels.
My point is this:
I'm a transplanted guitar player just getting into electronic music. When I played my guitar, all I had to worry about was my guitar, my amp and my effects. Recording was left to someone else.
Now, getting myself acclimated to the electronic realm (synths, samplers, drum machines, MIDI) there is a LOT more to worry about and recording is now up to me also. Again if it were up to me I would buy a great Mackie, I would buy a full blown PROtools system and I would use a Virus KB, a Memory Moog and listen to them all on a pair of high end KRK monitors. That just isn't going to happen. So I make a choice as to what I can spend my money well on now. Do I get cheap instruments and excellent studio equipment? Or do I get sweet instruments and passable studio equipment?
I opted for instruments knowing that the Behringer would get me through this initial learning period (hey, having to figure out MIDI, synthesis techniques and sequencing all at the same time is no piece of cake!).
Yes, the Behringer is inferior to Mackie. No argument there. But don't scare newbies (and/ or people on a budget) off of Behringer or any other "bargain" gear.
Just like we all start on a smaller bike and work our way up, I started with a smaller and will work my way up.
Besides, if all you can afford is a crappy instrument after you've bought your "sweet" mixer, what exactly was the point? Casiotone through Mackie, Spirit, or Behringer is still a Casiotone...
 
re: nady's......

MISTERQCUE said:
My point has nothing to do with price when it comes to mixers. I am only referring to reliability which Behringer doesn't provide in it's mixers nor their customer service.
If you was looking line of Nady's, which are less than the Brgr's or even Peavy's. Heck, you could have gotten a decent ufor a decent economical small mixer,
you could have checked the new sed 1604 fro about 400 on
e-bay!
But if you're happy with your mixer, than I'm happy for you!
Peace
Mr.Q
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I happened to purchase a NADY SRM14 a while back and had to send it back because the right channel kept cutting out....not very reliable if you ask me

now I own a behringer and it's worked wonderfully...hmmm, guess I'm lucky
 
Aren't y'all missing the point a bit?

First of all; I have no experience with Behringer Mixers. I am a small time home recording musician with a limited budget and limited time, so I'll not soon rise above amateur level.

I do, however, have some Behringer products:
The Virtualizer, Dualfex and Autocom. All of these fit my needs and demands like a glove, simply because I obviously work on a (much) lower level of professionalism than most of you in here do. Which shows in the amount of cash I'm inclined to spend on gear.

So what about the point missed?
Well, you all rave about other brands of equipment and some of you diss Behringer products because they "suck" and I even taste a bit of "They're cheap so they can't be any good" attitude.

Indeed they're cheap, and of course there's better gear out there. And hell yeah, If I had the bucks and more time I'd go for the high quality (or should I say 'high profile?') stuff.

I'm not posting here to praise Behringer or to diss them. My experiences with the gear are good, and with their support people as well: though my units have always worked fine, I sent them an email the other day to notify them that part of their downloads were unavailable. I got a friendly message back within an hour with apologies and the manuals I wanted attached in .PDF

Of course when it comes to Behringer stuff breaking down, I'm fortunate to be living in Holland so I *could* even drive there and make them repair a defective unit.

What I mean to say is that there's all kinds of recording musicians here from beginners like myself to experts.
All you experts out there should realize a bit better maybe, that not all of the beginners have the cash to buy 'pro' stuff. Or in my case don't even WANT to spend lots of cash even though they could. (I can't... who am I kidding?) :)

This doesn't mean you can't advise the beginners / amateurs, of course. I myself greatly appreciate advise of any kind, But instead of hammering on how they should have bought *this* or *that* maybe it would be better to advise them on how to get good results with whatever ("poor") gear they have.

Thanx for reading this, I hope I made my point clear. I'm not English so I hope my point came across like I intended it to...

Take care y'all!
 
"So what about the point missed? Well, you all rave about other brands of equipment and some of you diss Behringer products because they "suck" and I even taste a bit of "They're cheap so they can't be any good" attitude."

Well, not ALL the posters in this thread rave about other brands - lotsa people talked about satisfying or good experiences with Behringer gear, even the mixer. But you know, when people starting saying something sucks or it's crap cuz it's cheap or cuz it's got Chinese parts, you can easily dismiss what they're saying, especially when other people have positive experiences with the gear. But based on reports and my own experience, I think Behringer do have a bit of a QC problem - my Behringer compressor was the only gear I've had to take back and exchange because one of the buttons didn't work out of the box.
 
Oh yeah...

That can happen with any kind of gear. I bought an Ibanez RG series guitar a few years back and had to take it back twice or thrice because of a faulty (Floyd Rose) tremolo. Similarly I have never even taken the effort when the 'here's where you put your finger thingy' of the jog dial on my Roland GP-16 fell off.

So far I have been lucky when it comes to behringer products I suppose. I hope it stays that way too! :)

Thanx for your reply, by the way. Did the store give you a hard time replacing the unit?
 
Purpose of Forum...

I guess there will always be varying experiences with any piece of gear. That is the beauty of Forums like this one. If 90% of all people have trouble with some gear, that is probably an indicator. On the other hand, if a few gear snobs start unjustifiably badmouthing some, then some real users can provide additional info, which they may otherwise have simply remained silent about.

My own personal whipping boy is TC Electronics...don't get me started !

Peace,
Rick
 
Re: Aren't y'all missing the point a bit?

Antikal said:

So what about the point missed?
Well, you all rave about other brands of equipment and some of you diss Behringer products because they "suck" and I even taste a bit of "They're cheap so they can't be any good" attitude.
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I'm ONLY referring to Behringer mixers and not their entire line of gear.
 
Comparing behringer things way out of it's legue isn't right. Like comparing taco bell to (insert ritzy resturant in you hometown) Yes the 7 layer burrito and double decker tacos are tasty treats, but they aren't as good as a big ass steak and lobster meal and fine wine from a ritzy reasturant. Behringer makes an inexpensive mixer that is worth more than you pay in my opinion, but can never compete with alot of the others named.
 
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