bass drum micing cool

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reshp1 said:
No that won't do it. Preamp out just gives you a direct signal out of the amp. It has nothing to do with the speaker. You can still do this with a combo. Just unhook the speaker clips from the speaker. Cut an expendable guitar cable and strip out the conducters. Wrap the bare conductors to the speaker terminals directly.

hmmmmm ill have to find a cable


i also have some speakers from a car .... does the size of the speaker make a differance in sound?
 
Nick The Man said:
hmmmmm ill have to find a cable


i also have some speakers from a car .... does the size of the speaker make a differance in sound?

I would assume so. I think it works either way (using it as a speaker or a microphone); larger diameter equals more bass content. I could be wrong, but it makes sense to me. :D
 
Nick The Man said:
hmmmmm ill have to find a cable


i also have some speakers from a car .... does the size of the speaker make a differance in sound?

One of those should work fine. By fine I mean it will work, but it won't necessarily be great. What size is the speaker? The Yamaha Subkick uses a 10" speaker, but I've seen pictures of people using 6" speakers and of people using 15" speakers. Just experiment and figure out what's most useful to you.

I really wish in that original link that the person doing it hadn't used a combo amp because it led to a lot of unnecessary confusion.
 
Well I tried this method yesterday using an M-audio BX8 monitor, it didnt work, most likely because I didn't reverse the polarity. What's the best way to do this? ...stick the output from the speaker into a polarity switcher? ...I had it going directly into Sonar and tried to switch the polarity with that but obviously that didnt' work.
 
rweiss said:
Well I tried this method yesterday using an M-audio BX8 monitor, it didnt work, most likely because I didn't reverse the polarity. What's the best way to do this? ...stick the output from the speaker into a polarity switcher? ...I had it going directly into Sonar and tried to switch the polarity with that but obviously that didnt' work.

It doesn't have anything to do with the polarity. I'm assuming that your monitor is active and you're taking it from the power amp's input. That's not going to work.
 
man i have been sitting around most these days and somehow managed not to even attempt this


i really want to :o
 
I've done this before and it works fine :). reshp1 has it perfect for the combo amp. But if I were you, i WOULDNT take monitors and do this... i mean the monitors are ment for monitoring :) . Just find a speaker thats about 10" like the SubKick. And make a nice stand for it, and then do the cableing. :)
 
Yeah, it's active. I'm not versed in these wise arts. Thanks for your help.
 
one of my first attempts at recording was done with a speaker. this is what got me interested in recording!
 
rweiss said:
Well I tried this method yesterday using an M-audio BX8 monitor, it didnt work, most likely because I didn't reverse the polarity. What's the best way to do this? ...stick the output from the speaker into a polarity switcher? ...I had it going directly into Sonar and tried to switch the polarity with that but obviously that didnt' work.

It didn't work because the BX8 is an Active speaker. There's an amplifier between the input and the actual speaker. You have to have access to the actual speaker itself.

EDIT: Nevermind, didn't see there was a page2 ;) Like 5 people already beat me to it. :D
 
ok i dont think i am understanding this correctly


i have an old car speaker here:

i stripped the wires and there is two wires like on every speaker.... but thing i dont understand is

everyone has been telling me to connect those two speaker wires to a TS cable which when you strip a TS cable it only has 1 wire inside soooo how am i supposed to connect a TS cable to a Speaker?

some one please help


thank you ,

Nick
 
Adam P said:
One of those should work fine. By fine I mean it will work, but it won't necessarily be great. What size is the speaker? The Yamaha Subkick uses a 10" speaker, but I've seen pictures of people using 6" speakers and of people using 15" speakers. Just experiment and figure out what's most useful to you.

I really wish in that original link that the person doing it hadn't used a combo amp because it led to a lot of unnecessary confusion.

the car speaker is 6x9
 
Nick The Man said:
i stripped the wires and there is two wires like on every speaker.... but thing i dont understand is

everyone has been telling me to connect those two speaker wires to a TS cable which when you strip a TS cable it only has 1 wire inside soooo how am i supposed to connect a TS cable to a Speaker?


Nick
The 1 insulated wire goes to one speaker wire, then the metal braid shielding around the insulated wire goes to the other one. It's a bitch to strip a TS cable and not cut the shielding braid too sometimes.
 
reshp1 said:
The 1 insulated wire goes to one speaker wire, then the metal braid shielding around the insulated wire goes to the other one. It's a bitch to strip a TS cable and not cut the shielding braid too sometimes.


ooooooo thank you very much

and it doesnt matter Positive or negative or anything like that?
 
Nick The Man said:
ooooooo thank you very much

and it doesnt matter Positive or negative or anything like that?

It shouldn't, but I would connect the speaker's + terminal to Tip and the - terminal to Sleeve (braided shield).
 
Adam P said:
It shouldn't, but I would connect the speaker's + terminal to Tip and the - terminal to Sleeve (braided shield).

i guess im just gonna have to take a wild guess and hope i connect the right terminals because there is no markings on the speaker that inform me of where the negative and postive are

thank you very much
 
would it be smarter to use a XRL cable


and reverse the polarity
 
Nick The Man said:
would it be smarter to use a XRL cable


and reverse the polarity
No....that's what the direct box is for. Make a cable that has a TS 1/4" jack on one end and some means of connecting to the speaker terminals on the other (bare wires, spade connectors, etc...). Plug the 1/4" end of that cable into a direct box, then XLR from direct box into preamp.

To make this perfectly clear. THE CONNECTION MUST BE STRAIGHT TO THE SPEAKER. There cannot be any amplifier or other electronics in the path. This is why it won't work with a powered monitor, or by plugging into the input jack of a combo amp.

One question for the more experienced at this... Does speaker impedance seem to make much of any difference?
 
Nick The Man said:
i guess im just gonna have to take a wild guess and hope i connect the right terminals because there is no markings on the speaker that inform me of where the negative and postive are

thank you very much

Holy good fuckin god Nick. Just do what they told you already. Hook the fucking 2 wires from the speaker to a 1/4 plug. Stick into a freakin direct box. Fucking record already. Jeesshhhhh how many fucking ways do they have to re-word it. Sorry but goddamn are you dense or what?
 
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