Audition "4.0" Announced

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Sikter, you might want to wait out 5.5 and then check out Version 6. It's coming out in about a year - they've said that - and I think it's going to have pretty much everything Version 3 had, PLUS speed, PLUS some new features.
 
What about that brave new engine? Have you tested it? Aa 3,0 load up very fast, still, if I use ZOOM in multitrack (both vertical and horizonatal zoom) it becomes to behave pretty lazy.
What about midi? Do you thik they'll come with simple usefull window where we could record/write, edit midi track. I have bought a digital drum set, it works just perfect with Cubase and Addictive drums VSTi. To be true, I didn't even bother to try in AA, even though I know Addictive drums works in AA3,0. It would be really great to do a complete job in Aa.
I can understand using plugins in it but closing session just to fix a couple notes in one track is not efficiant.
I go now to read about AA6,0. It sounds fancy
 
I downloaded the 28 trial and used it a lot. There were things I liked but, in the end, found the disadvantages outweighed the advantages for my typical workflow.

(In my case, I often have to load up sessions created on older versions. Converting these to .sesx isn't a problem with Suite Spot studios wonderful donation ware converter but, the need to go back to AA3.0 for a few of the things currently missing made it just too awkward.)

I'm in the group waiting for CS6.0 and if that replaces the missing things that I need, that'll be when I upgrade.

Bob
 
Ok, I posted my concern on Adobe Forum and got really
fast respond. It doesn't look good for MIDI dudes. You can
read the full post there, but it looks to me Adobe is aiming
to different kind of marked.
 
sikter said:
I can understand using plugins in it but closing session just to fix a couple notes in one track is not efficiant.
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Right. Not if you work with MIDI that way, no. I agree. It's the biggest problem I've got with the program right now. It'll be funny if my music goes in a certain unforseen direction because of the way the program works with MIDI. Or if I worry about that enough to start working with more MIDI-frendy stuff on another program. :D Hey, have you made much music that didn't have a programed beat?
 
dobro said:
:D Hey, have you made much music that didn't have a programed beat?
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No, I haven't! But that's not impossible task!
Metronome helps but it'snot the same!
By the way is it possible to make metronome to speed up proportionally or slow down in Audition? What about changing the measure in some point? I don't think it is... I use 7/8 measure in my latest project. It's
tricky for audition and I can't set it up properly.
Аnd you know what?
My cubase version is SX2. It's about 200 years old software.
I wonder how far have they got with Cubase 6...
 
Uh...if I'm not mistaken, the metronome is one of the features that didn't make it into 5.5. That's another reason why I'm thinking that for most Windows users, it makes a lot of sense to wait another few months until Version 6 comes out - it's sort of like the Windows users are subsidising the Mac version, I think. I bought 5.5 because I wanted to familiarize myself with it before Version 6 appears. (And no, I haven't noticed an increase of speed yet because all I've done with it so far is track stuff. It'll be in mixing and mixing down that the speed will show itself.)
 
I like Audition better because I'm familiar with it. I'll continue with it unless things get to the point where instant MIDI editing becomes an issue.
 
I went to the store to buy Cubase 6 and the guy sold my cheap Cubase 5. By the time I learn it they' probably come with Cubase 7.
Installed on my PC and everything worked fine. My card is M-Audio FW410. Mixer and audio edit view look awfully.
I'll give it a chance after summer vacation.

sikter
 
My two cents, fwiw. I switched to Mac last September. Prior to that, I was running Audition 3.0, and planned to continue using Parallels on the Mac until I stumbled onto the Mac Beta version. I got that fairly early in the Beta process and offered what little feedback I could. I primarily use it for vocals and background music for VO's. Essentially, AA CS5.5 for Mac is what we Beta tested with the fixes. So having been part of that process, I am obviously stoked to be running it and on the Mac. No, I wasn't thrilled with converting files from ses format, but it wasn't bad and it translated well for me. I own the Production Premium suite as well, and was never impressed with Soundbooth, and still hate it. I was naturally glad to see that my Prod Prem upgrade would save me from upgrading two products.

Usability was transferrable for me. I was, by no means, doing anything earth shattering in my mixing and edits, but there was the little bit of change for me, not only from AA 3 to Beta but also to the Mac way of life. Maybe that made it easier, but who knows. I recently took part in a webinar for VO people who use AA and it covered features in CS5.5. I learned a few goodies that I didn't know existed and have cut some time off of my edits. I also do not use MIDI for much of anything, but I haven't had a need to try adding it in yet. I moved away from doing my own MIDI a long time ago.

My experience may not rival too many people here, but for someone who has only been working with Audition and for about 2-3 years, I can say that the upgrade is huge. I find it very easy to use and it makes me sound good. Take my opinion fwiw, but I like it and recommend it.
 
Interesting! I guess VO stays for "voicing over" but I'm not sure since I don't use english much. Can you share with us those new goodies?
Do you use a multitrack view? What about that background music?
Do you write/record yourself or just borrow it?

sikter
 
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Uh...if I'm not mistaken, the metronome is one of the features that didn't make it into 5.5.
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Are you saying there's no metronome at all or that you can't alter the tempo in a project?
 
Booch_21 said:
My two cents, fwiw. I switched to Mac last September. Prior to that, I was running Audition 3.0, and planned to continue using Parallels on the Mac until I stumbled onto the Mac Beta version. I got that fairly early in the Beta process and offered what little feedback I could. I primarily use it for vocals and background music for VO's. Essentially, AA CS5.5 for Mac is what we Beta tested with the fixes. So having been part of that process, I am obviously stoked to be running it and on the Mac. No, I wasn't thrilled with converting files from ses format, but it wasn't bad and it translated well for me. I own the Production Premium suite as well, and was never impressed with Soundbooth, and still hate it. I was naturally glad to see that my Prod Prem upgrade would save me from upgrading two products.

Usability was transferrable for me. I was, by no means, doing anything earth shattering in my mixing and edits, but there was the little bit of change for me, not only from AA 3 to Beta but also to the Mac way of life. Maybe that made it easier, but who knows. I recently took part in a webinar for VO people who use AA and it covered features in CS5.5. I learned a few goodies that I didn't know existed and have cut some time off of my edits. I also do not use MIDI for much of anything, but I haven't had a need to try adding it in yet. I moved away from doing my own MIDI a long time ago.

My experience may not rival too many people here, but for someone who has only been working with Audition and for about 2-3 years, I can say that the upgrade is huge. I find it very easy to use and it makes me sound good. Take my opinion fwiw, but I like it and recommend it.
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I can see Mac users being pleased with it, but I'd really like to know why you think the upgrade is 'huge'.

So far, I've used it in Multitrack for recording and EQing tracks. I love the parametric EQ, but otherwise it's not very different from Version3 for recording. The most reassuring thing about using 5.5 so far is that it's as easy and reliable as AA 3. I'm hoping it turns out to be better for mixing than Version 3. I'm still seeing what the 'upgrade' is about.
 
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I can see Mac users being pleased with it, but I'd really like to know why you think the upgrade is 'huge'.
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Because I think its a big improvement for me and my use. Nothing more. As I stated in my post, I'm limited in experience since my use is for voiceover work and simple editing and occasional mixing in of royalty-free music. I simply find that its easier to use than 3.0 was. It could be the Mac, the upgrade or a combination of. Other people who have used every type of software out there may not be impressed, and that is their choice. I stated my personal experience only.
 
sikter said:
Interesting! I guess VO stays for "voicing over" but I'm not sure since I don't use english much. Can you share with us those new goodies?
Do you use a multitrack view? What about that background music?
Do you write/record yourself or just borrow it?
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Yes, VO is voiceover. I speak as in commercials, narration and so forth. No singing.

I use multitrack view for lining everything up, but for edits, I go into single track view and use the spectrum display directly below. One of the tricks that has helped me may not be earthshattering to the experts, but I learned some tweaks that have made my VO's sound very clean. I switch between an RE20 at my desk and an NT1-A in my makeshift booth, depending on the type of read and where it will be used (telephone messaging, radio/tv, etc). I've got the Voiceover Tube Compressor setting dialed in, and I've added a De-esser with a range that suits my voice. Also added a low end filter through the software and not at the mixer. I'm filtering more low end than the mixer normally does, but still not losing anything appreciable. Those create a very flat, clean recording that is on par with other stuff that I've heard.

For me, I create some mouth pops and noise. The spectral display allows me to hone in on them and use the Auto Heal to reduce the impact of the noises. While they may not stand out on the wave display, they practically flash out to me on the spectral display.

I use royalty-free music for background stuff. I have a small library of music that I can use to enhance the tone of the read, if asked to add something. As I stated, I've pretty much walked away from doing my own MIDI tracks since so much has already been created and is easily accessible through Amazon or through various websites.

Hope some of that helps. Some of what I have discovered lately may be simple stuff to the veterans, but it was a revelation to a newer guy like me!
 
Booch_21 said:
Because I think its a big improvement for me and my use. Nothing more. As I stated in my post, I'm limited in experience since my use is for voiceover work and simple editing and occasional mixing in of royalty-free music. I simply find that its easier to use than 3.0 was. It could be the Mac, the upgrade or a combination of. Other people who have used every type of software out there may not be impressed, and that is their choice. I stated my personal experience only.
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Yeah, I know it's just a statement of your experience, but it's the details of that experience that I'd like to hear about it. How is 5.5 a big improvement over Version 3 for you? What's better about it? In your most recent post, you describe things you really like about 5.5, but if I'm not mistaken you can do all that stuff in Version 3. No?
 
I'm not sure what it is you want me to tell you. Its easier for me to use, period. I think it has a lot to do with the redesigned interface as well. Maybe you can do all of the same things in 3.0, but since using the Mac version, I have found things to use that help me. Maybe they were in 3.0, maybe they weren't. Again, my experience is limited. But at the end of the day, I'm making better stuff, easier than I was before. That may not make sense to you, but its what makes it "huge" for me. How about I let an expert explain it, if that would be better for you:

Some of the features Audition has that Soundbooth didn’t have are: project exchange with third-party DAWs, native 5.1 multichannel support, more native audio effects and new royalty-free sound effects, loops, and music beds.

From the moment you launch Audition it has a familiar look and feel to it. The interface is clean and easy to understand. Once you click record you’re presented with the option to name your file, choose your sample rate, select your channels and bit depth. Click okay after choosing these settings and the recording begins.

Editing in Audition is as straightforward as it gets. Just click and select the portion of a waveform you need to edit and copy, cut and paste to your heart’s content. If you’ve ever used the free DAW Audacity, you can use Audition with no problem.

Adobe has upped the ante on audio effects this time around in Audition. Some of the native audio effects you may find useful are noise reduction, de-hummer, de-esser and speech volume leveler. The noise reduction effect can be very effective if, like me, you have less than perfect soundproofing in your studio. I was able to remove street-level traffic noise from a recording without much degradation to the recording. I had to tweak the sliders a bit, but it worked remarkably well.


VoiceOverXtra - New Adobe Audition CS5.5 Voice Over Production: It\'s Powerful Yet Simple -Trey Thomas
 
Booch_21 said:
I'm not sure what it is you want me to tell you. Its easier for me to use, period. I think it has a lot to do with the redesigned interface as well. Maybe you can do all of the same things in 3.0, but since using the Mac version, I have found things to use that help me. Maybe they were in 3.0, maybe they weren't. Again, my experience is limited. But at the end of the day, I'm making better stuff, easier than I was before. ]
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Ah, okay. Understand you now.

Booch_21 said:
That may not make sense to you, but its what makes it "huge" for me. How about I let an expert explain it, if that would be better for you:
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No, it's okay - don't quote experts. I get you now.
 
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