Audition "4.0" Announced

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...except the official name is Audition CS5.5.

Details HERE.

The trouble is, Audition CS5.5 seems to be being marketed purely as an audio post production tool, not as audio editing or production software. We'll have to see if the new thrust still gives us the very useful tool that we've all come to like...or if the Audio for Video aspect is too intrusive.

There's a page there to register to be told when the trial version is available for download. I've signed up and intend to give it a try before making any decisions.

Bob
 
Downloaded the trial verison of CS5.5 last week and imported a session. Started warming up to it but for me to do things right I would have to track audio and midi and then import the session. Seems like a major time waster.

Maybe this is me, but I really think especially after Pro Tools has opened up to the non-Avid hardware market Adobe is throwing in the towel on the serious multi-track recording applications and focusing on their nitche market. Which makes sense seeing how much money I've seen spent on Adobe products in 20 years working in advertising (both video and audio creative)

So for me the past week has been about one question: Pro Tools, Cubase or Sonar.
 
I'm having the same mental debate as you. However, there's some useful info about the "whys" of Audition CS5.5 as well as the future of Audition over on the Adobe forums HERE.

FYI, Durin (the original poster) is one of the Audition developers, not part of the marketing machine and he's very open about the good and bad bits as well as the release schedule. He's one of the good guys and has never steered us wrong before.

Bob
 
Bobbsy said:
I'm having the same mental debate as you. However, there's some useful info about the "whys" of Audition CS5.5 as well as the future of Audition over on the Adobe forums HERE.

FYI, Durin (the original poster) is one of the Audition developers, not part of the marketing machine and he's very open about the good and bad bits as well as the release schedule. He's one of the good guys and has never steered us wrong before.

Bob
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Thanks for the link.

It confirmed what I thought about the direction of Audition. Which I can't blame Adobe as a business to put their eggs into the basket that is going to bear the biggest return. Adobe has a steller rep there and everyone knows that the bundled package going to pro audio / video producers is going to generate the biggest payoff.

Again for what it has I can appreicate the upgrade. I may even fork over the $100.00 for the upgrade when the trial is over. But is it going to work for music creation on a scale I've grown acustomed to? Sadly no.

As someone who has only used Audition (even though I do use Ableton Lite for some MIDI work) it's disappointing to feel like the company is leaving you behind. But again, I understand why they need to do it. And I'm sure they knew going in people who used it Audition for that reason might not upgrade or would spread their wings and try new software.
 
Even with AA3 having midi I usually used Reaper or Sonar for getting any midi bounced down to wav and then used AA from there.
Just like I use Nero for CD burning, MS Word for writing doco and MYOB for my accounting. I can't expect AA to be good at everything so I always use the tools that do the best job.

Sure AA5.5 has some annoying gaps (maybe different for you and me) but quite frankly I thought AA3 would be the last version so I will be giving them the support they need to get us to the next (even better) version.

My two bobs worth ;-)
 
Yeah. I don't actually do much MIDI but, when I need it, I have an old copy of Sonar for that purpose--I'm a believer in using specialist software as required rather than trying to find one "compromise".

What's been highlighted to me is the very different priorities different users have. I'd hate to be the person at Adobe deciding what's important.

I'm still a week or ten days into my 28 day trial and haven't decided whether to invest or not. So far, the missing bits are annoyances rather than a single deal-breaker--but the cumulative effect of too many annoyances may become a deal breaking in its own right.

I also have a very specific problem with the price. At the current exchange rate, a $99 upgrade should cost about Aus$93 but Adobe are forcing me to order from Adobe Australia--who are charging almost double (Aus$170). Under a hundred dollars is one thing, but almost two hundred is a lot to spend on a upgrade the still leaves me needing to use AA3.01 for a lot of things I do.

Bob
 
As much as I like it, I can't see throwing any more money at Audition unless someone can say the new version has a lot of enhancements. If it's dropped features? Forget it...

Since I installed Reaper to save the hassles of moving my Audition license back and forth between desktop for use in the studio and laptop for use in mobile sessions, I've been using Audition less and less. With one multi-use Reaper license being $40, it's hard to justify an upgrade to Audition, let alone buying a copy for each machine...
 
Just as an aside, the Audition licence permits two installations, specifically to cater for the "desk top plus lap top" scenario you mention.

I can't argue with the rest of it though--AA4/CS5.5 was developed to an arbitrary release date rather than waiting until it was ready--hence the missing previous features which they claim will start coming back NEXT version.

Bob
 
I've been using the new stuff and I like it. I use Audition for tracking and mixing, and the new version enhances my workflow.

Question: I use Reaper for doing MIDI, then I take it into Audition. But has anyone here tried MIDI in FL Studio?

Bobbsy, have you bought it?

So many questions, so little time. "Once I built a railroad to the sun made it run on time..."
 
No, I'm still in the trial period and am undecided whether or not to buy this version. Several of the missing bits adversely affect my workflow (maybe not to the "deal buster" stage but certainly as annoyances) and, as I posted elsewhere, Adobe's stupid pricing makes the "upgrade" almost double the US price when I consider the exchange rate. Under $100 is one thing but almost $180 is another deterrent for something that's at least partly a retrograde step for me.

...and I've never tried FL studio.
 
I think that Audition 3.0 is much better. I cant import any legacy project files and have to save them all as xml files. Also I dont think that you can configure a control surface with cs 5.5. Seems like they took out everything that I liked about audition. Also cant use any direct x effects :-(
 
Yeah, I think how happy you are with the new version depends on what you were using in 3.0. I didn't use a control surface with 3.0, for instance, so I don't miss it in AA4. I abandoned DirectX plugs a while back, so I don't miss that. I do MIDI in Reaper, so I don't miss that. And so on. Anyway, long story short I bought the new version and am happy with it, cuz it does a lot of the stuff I do all the time better than version 3 does it. Check out the parametric EQ, for instance. You can actually also click on something while AA4's running and it doesn't shut down like 3 does. It's easier to grab volume envelopes on the fly in multitrack. What Version 4 does is better and smoother and faster than version 3. But it doesn't do as much as version 3 does, that's true.
 
I used 1 direct x effect because it was a fabulous noise gate but I found a subsitute. I guess it's just a matter of getting used to. It does open projects much faster and it seems to run more efficiently than 3.0. Maybe I'll start to warm up to it once I start playing with it.
 
This is a strange version, because Adobe seems to have used up all its development budget on rewriting the code for Windows Audition plus getting the Mac version written - that's why they didn't include some features that 3.0 has. So I figure try out the trial version and if it suits you, get it; otherwise, continue to use Version 3, and wait for a couple of years and the next version will have everything.
 
Brenton said:
I think that Audition 3.0 is much better. I cant import any legacy project files and have to save them all as xml files. Also I dont think that you can configure a control surface with cs 5.5. Seems like they took out everything that I liked about audition. Also cant use any direct x effects :-(
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Brenton download ses2sesx it will convert your ses files to sesx. It will convert internal fx that are supported in AA4 but no direct x fx wont come across
 
dobro said:
This is a strange version, because Adobe seems to have used up all its development budget on rewriting the code for Windows Audition plus getting the Mac version written - that's why they didn't include some features that 3.0 has. So I figure try out the trial version and if it suits you, get it; otherwise, continue to use Version 3, and wait for a couple of years and the next version will have everything.
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I'm hoping that they already have a lot of stuff written but which given testing, etc or stability or a heap of other reasons had to be turned of to make the release deadline.
Thats my hope and if so then they would be more advanced then we imagine.

This is just my opinion (and hope) based on how I develop apps.
 
Bobbsy said:
Just as an aside, the Audition licence permits two installations, specifically to cater for the "desk top plus lap top" scenario you mention.
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Then maybe I'm just not smart enough to use it. :o
 
I was always one of the first ones who were eager to update to new version. But not this time.
Haven't even tried 5,5.
I'll try it when I'm back from my 4 weeks vacations. It doesn't look good after I read this thread.
I started so many projects in AA3,0 and now I ask myself should I continue
them in 5,5 or just forget about 5,5.
I remember when I did the same in my 1,5 to 2,0 transition. Ooo I loved 2,0.
Never looked back after that one.
We'll see this time. There is a little guy on my left shoulder telling me to forget AA and go over to Cubase 6.

That would mean 1 song = 1 Project = 1 session. Everything in one place. Sounds great, believe me.
But I'm still in love with Audition.
How could I abound it?
 
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