Audio Interface for MXL V67G

[Grafolicious]

Hey, I'll be investing for an MXL v67G (nice price for mic) and I'm just wondering what's a really decent (above average) audio interface that would work well with this type of mic?

I was thinking of getting myself the M-Audio - Mobile Pre USB Interface. A decent $175.00 locally at my store.

If anyone knows a better interface, can you please care to share?
Thank you ^^.

I'm currently upgrading from my Samson C01U Studio Condenser Mic. I'm not feeling the USB, it picks up sound from inside my computer because of the USB plug.

PS ****~*~**~*~*~* Or, should I get an AT2020 instead of the MXL V67G? I'm not quite sure. I hear really good feedback of both.

 

[Fishmed]

Hey, I'll be investing for an MXL v67G (nice price for mic) and I'm just wondering what's a really decent (above average) audio interface that would work well with this type of mic?

I was thinking of getting myself the M-Audio - Mobile Pre USB Interface. A decent $175.00 locally at my store.

If anyone knows a better interface, can you please care to share?
Thank you ^^.

I'm currently upgrading from my Samson C01U Studio Condenser Mic. I'm not feeling the USB, it picks up sound from inside my computer because of the USB plug.

PS ****~*~**~*~*~* Or, should I get an AT2020 instead of the MXL V67G? I'm not quite sure. I hear really good feedback of both.

I would go with the MXL V67G over the AT2020.

 

[Chili]

I'm currently upgrading from my Samson C01U Studio Condenser Mic. I'm not feeling the USB, it picks up sound from inside my computer because of the USB plug.
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What do you mean it picks up sound from inside your computer?? Do you mean sound travels up the cable to the mic?? Are you sure it's just not picking up the fan noises?? Condensors are very sensitive to environmental noise. I only ask because switching mics won't fix that. You have to separate the mic from the noise, either by quieting down your computer or moving the mic to another room, etc...


I'm struggling with computer noise myself after making some mods.

 

[Grafolicious]

I would go with the MXL V67G over the AT2020.

Any reason why?

 

[Grafolicious]

What do you mean it picks up sound from inside your computer?? Do you mean sound travels up the cable to the mic?? Are you sure it's just not picking up the fan noises?? Condensors are very sensitive to environmental noise. I only ask because switching mics won't fix that. You have to separate the mic from the noise, either by quieting down your computer or moving the mic to another room, etc...


I'm struggling with computer noise myself after making some mods.

No, it's from the cable. maybe the noise close by it adds also, but there's been studies on it. One laptop tried with the c01u, no sound, while the other laptop picked it up hardcore and both were silent laptops.

It's just like the headphones im using, when I plug my mouse USB to the front part of the tower where my headphone, if i don't touch the mice for 3 seconds, it has some high freq sound coming to my ears, so I plugged the mouse to the back of the tower, problem solved.

Oh and for recording wit the c01u, i just Noise Reduce it

 

[didgijimmy]

If it helps,

I own the mobilepreusb and have had no problems with it at all. It's good for the money, but would be nice if had a usb port on the back or something(just for convenience). Also I really wish now I would of went with firewire, or something with some nobs! But they just weren't cheap enough when I bought the mobilepre. In other words I don't think you will be dissatisfied with it
James

 

[dgatwood]

Which mic you should choose depends on what you are recording. For voice, the V67G would probably be better than an AT2020, though a CAD M177 sells for only about $40 more new and is likely to be a significantly better vocal mic than either of those. Or on eBay for only $20 more than the V69 typically costs:

http://cgi.ebay.com/CAD-Microphones...6|66:2|65:12|39:1|240:1318|301:1|293:1|294:50

Just my $0.02.

 

[didgijimmy]

Listen to dgatwood, he has helped me a couple of times. just FYI if you want to mic guitar cabs then I probably wouldnt recommend the v67g. I own the v63 and thought at the time that I could maybe use it on my cab as well, but I find I always end up with too many low frequencies allowed through, even after cutting my low's in half on the cab. I know that condensors are supposed to be great for recording amps but the v63 is not. but that shows how little I know. I'll go talk to my sm57 now.

 

[dgatwood]

Listen to dgatwood, he has helped me a couple of times. just FYI if you want to mic guitar cabs then I probably wouldnt recommend the v67g. I own the v63 and thought at the time that I could maybe use it on my cab as well, but I find I always end up with too many low frequencies allowed through, even after cutting my low's in half on the cab. I know that condensors are supposed to be great for recording amps but the v63 is not. but that shows how little I know. I'll go talk to my sm57 now.

Back it away a bit. The 57 has lots of low roll-off built into the mic's response curve. Condenser mics usually don't unless it has a switchable roll-off (though there are a few that have a permanent roll-off). When you put a cardioid mic without a bass roll-off too close to an amp or other sound source, it gets boomy. That's called proximity effect and is basically the nature of cardioid mics.

 

[Grafolicious]

oh yeah, I forgot it's just for vocals, more or so for the Hip Hop area of sound. Looking for that Lupe feeling.
Thanks guys.

So as far as I know, I'd either get a V67 or M177 then and the Mobile Pre USB won't matter?

 

[didgijimmy]

Back it away a bit. The 57 has lots of low roll-off built into the mic's response curve. Condenser mics usually don't unless it has a switchable roll-off (though there are a few that have a permanent roll-off). When you put a cardioid mic without a bass roll-off too close to an amp or other sound source, it gets boomy. That's called proximity effect and is basically the nature of cardioid mics.

Wow thanks dgatwood. another great tip. Any suggestion on distance, ill play around with it when i get a chance, but we talkin 6 inches or 12? I had pretty much given up on it with the cab now that ive got the 57, but ill give it another go.
James

 

[dgatwood]

Wow thanks dgatwood. another great tip. Any suggestion on distance, ill play around with it when i get a chance, but we talkin 6 inches or 12? I had pretty much given up on it with the cab now that ive got the 57, but ill give it another go.
James

About all I can say is "Experiment." Every mic is different, every recording environment is different, every cab is different, etc. The farther back you move it, the less bass boost you'll get from the proximity effect.

Oh, yeah, and don't underestimate the importance of using a shock mount to reduce mechanical transmission of bass frequencies through the floor/stand (particularly if you are on a wood floor)....

 

[dgatwood]

So as far as I know, I'd either get a V67 or M177 then and the Mobile Pre USB won't matter?

With any condenser mic, you'll need some kind of interface that provides phantom power. The Mobile Pre certainly wouldn't be one I'd recommend given its below-standard phantom power voltage, but you will have to have something. That's probably more a subject for a thread in the computer recording forum rather than the mic forum, though.

 

[didgijimmy]

With any condenser mic, you'll need some kind of interface that provides phantom power. The Mobile Pre certainly wouldn't be one I'd recommend given its below-standard phantom power voltage, but you will have to have something. That's probably more a subject for a thread in the computer recording forum rather than the mic forum, though.

Can you give a number for what is close to the standard phantom voltage? I own the mobilepre and was just curious how detrimental less voltage could be. Will it just be less responsive and pickup less?
Thanks,
James

 

[dgatwood]

Can you give a number for what is close to the standard phantom voltage? I own the mobilepre and was just curious how detrimental less voltage could be. Will it just be less responsive and pickup less?
Thanks,
James

It's supposed to be 48VDC. The original ones were as low as 30V. Somebody said that they had improved things in newer ones, but no idea how much. Some mics will work fine on as low as 12V with a loss of headroom. Other mics misbehave very badly. It varies greatly depending on how the mic is designed.

 

[didgijimmy]

great thanks!

 

[Grafolicious]

What kind of interface would you recommend for a mic such as MXL V67G then? I choose to get this one instead of the AT2020 (thanks for helping me decide)

 

[countrylac]

Get the cad.

I do a lot of hip hop vocals and I own both the Cad (actually I have a m179 and a m37, which all sound the same and basically are the same mic, except the m179 has switchable patterns). The Cad has more of a flat response and is very submissive to eq and will sit in the mix better. The v67 is lacking in the low to mid range and has a sound that is already processed. This may work for some voices, but if doesn't work for a particular vocal it will make it a pain to mix.

P.S. If you'd like I can post some clips with both mics later tonight if you'd like.

 

[Grafolicious]

I do a lot of hip hop vocals and I own both the Cad (actually I have a m179 and a m37, which all sound the same and basically are the same mic, except the m179 has switchable patterns). The Cad has more of a flat response and is very submissive to eq and will sit in the mix better. The v67 is lacking in the low to mid range and has a sound that is already processed. This may work for some voices, but if doesn't work for a particular vocal it will make it a pain to mix.

P.S. If you'd like I can post some clips with both mics later tonight if you'd like.

That'd be really helpful. Thanks alot

 

[dgatwood]

What kind of interface would you recommend for a mic such as MXL V67G then? I choose to get this one instead of the AT2020 (thanks for helping me decide)

I can't always tell you what's good, but I can point out a lot of bad ones to avoid.

The usual ones I'd recommend in the low end are mostly FireWire products by Edirol, e.g. the FA-66, FA-101. That said, I've generally heard good things about the Phonic Helix FireWire stuff, e.g. this. No idea why Full Compass says "USB" as part of the description---that's pretty clearly the FireWire version in the picture and about 98% of the description.... *shrugs*

I don't have any good suggestions in the USB space. I'm sure there are some that are reasonable, I just don't know what.