Aside from the loudness war and musical taste...

[JHOOKS]

whats really wrong with the music is that its over compressess to the point were it is causing hearing fatigue and damaging perfectly good ears, and that my good friend is simply bad for your well being. i personally love the oldies stuff that shit is pureeeeeeeeeeee not like today's over hyped, super over done sound! I think music today simply sucks, not all but most. but hey your ears you decide! peace.

ps there some article i was reading about that in 50 years more then 73 million people will suffer from hearing problems, or somthing like that. HUHHHH! WHAT YOU SAY!

 

[chiz]

ps there some article i was reading about that in 50 years more then 73 million people will suffer from hearing problems, or somthing like that. HUHHHH! WHAT YOU SAY!

Heh. That's about 1% of today's population. In 50 years that number will be next to nothing.

 

[Mixerman]

What's wrong with mainstream rock productions?

I know the number one answer will probably be too much compression...but if that helps them get the sound they want, what's wrong with it?

I'm not trying to start an argument...just curious.

What's wrong with mainstream rock productions is a complete and total lack of rebellion. Compression has nothing to do with it. Corporations have no patience for those that won't "play the game." Great rock bands throughout history are notorious for NOT playing the game. Rock Bands didn't give a flying fuck about the money. Not that I'm recommending this sort of ignorance, but when a band is more concerned about the pie than their art, that's a problem.

These days, kids are listening to the music that their parnets listned to. 13 year olds are gravitating to classic rock? Why? An interensting question, when you consider that parents are supposed to absolutely fucking HATE the music their children listen to. We, as a society, have almost completely eroded the normal and important generation gap. This generation doesn't have an identity. If you think that's problematic now. Just wait.

Here's a paragraph from a recent interview that sums up my feelings on this issue.

"Today’s rock bands are a bunch of wussies that have no clue what rock is. Rock is about rebellion. Rock is about not giving a fuck what anyone else thinks. Real rock musicians will play a chord badly and hope they play it worse on the next chord. Real rock singers don’t give a fuck if they’re in tune and would probably be pissed were they to actually stay on the right note for its full duration. Real rock drummers don’t give a shit if they’re in time or not, so long as they are pounding the shit out of their skins and creating massive amounts of sawdust. That’s rock."

Now, rebellion is in the stealing of music. An after-effect of corporations being completely out-of-touch with what people NEED in their lives for more than 15 years.

If you're speaking purely of sonics. Vinyl sounded better than CDs, and loudness comes from hyper brick wall limiting, removing all depth from music, coupled with hyper boosting of high end, causing excessively irritating distortion. These two techniques make music so outrageously unrelenting, that it could cause Ghandi to strangle the shit out of the person next to him. Of course, some would argue that's just low blood sugar. But what the hell do they know?

Mixerman

 

[earthboundrec]

What's wrong with mainstream rock productions is a complete and total lack of rebellion. Compression has nothing to do with it. Corporations have no patience for those that won't "play the game." Great rock bands throughout history are notorious for NOT playing the game. Rock Bands didn't give a flying fuck about the money. Not that I'm recommending this sort of ignorance, but when a band is more concerned about the pie than their art, that's a problem.

These days, kids are listening to the music that their parnets listned to. 13 year olds are gravitating to classic rock? Why? An interensting question, when you consider that parents are supposed to absolutely fucking HATE the music their children listen to. We, as a society, have almost completely eroded the normal and important generation gap. This generation doesn't have an identity. If you think that's problematic now. Just wait.

Here's a paragraph from a recent interview that sums up my feelings on this issue.

"Today’s rock bands are a bunch of wussies that have no clue what rock is. Rock is about rebellion. Rock is about not giving a fuck what anyone else thinks. Real rock musicians will play a chord badly and hope they play it worse on the next chord. Real rock singers don’t give a fuck if they’re in tune and would probably be pissed were they to actually stay on the right note for its full duration. Real rock drummers don’t give a shit if they’re in time or not, so long as they are pounding the shit out of their skins and creating massive amounts of sawdust. That’s rock."

Now, rebellion is in the stealing of music. An after-effect of corporations being completely out-of-touch with what people NEED in their lives for more than 15 years.

If you're speaking purely of sonics. Vinyl sounded better than CDs, and loudness comes from hyper brick wall limiting, removing all depth from music, coupled with hyper boosting of high end, causing excessively irritating distortion. These two techniques make music so outrageously unrelenting, that it could cause Ghandi to strangle the shit out of the person next to him. Of course, some would argue that's just low blood sugar. But what the hell do they know?

Mixerman

Fuckin' A! Mixerman! You're a true fuckin' rocker!...

 

[eraos]

These days, kids are listening to the music that their parnets listned to. 13 year olds are gravitating to classic rock? Why? An interensting question, when you consider that parents are supposed to absolutely fucking HATE the music their children listen to. We, as a society, have almost completely eroded the normal and important generation gap. This generation doesn't have an identity. If you think that's problematic now. Just wait.

Mixerman

Yeah, that is totally true. In my high school , and definitely in this college, classic rock is a huge presence.

I always found that strange myself, how many kids my age listen only to classic rock.

Sorry for quoting you by the way, should've waited and let you speak for yourself.

 

[Cloneboy Studio]

Let's face it, if you had the choice to listen to Motley Crue over Taking Back Sunday, who would you choose?

Heck, if you had a choice between Taking Back Sunday and Poison it's obvious to see who's more rock.

 

[eraos]

Let's face it, if you had the choice to listen to Motley Crue over Taking Back Sunday, who would you choose?

Heck, if you had a choice between Taking Back Sunday and Poison it's obvious to see who's more rock.

Well if those were the only two choices.. then it'd be a stalemate...

but I see your point





Last year, the Living End toured with Taking Back Sunday.. and can you believe that Taking Back Sunday was the headliner? over The Living End?
I went to the concert to see the Living End... figured we'd stay to watch TBS to get our money's worth but it was too much to handle. The guitarist sang more than the lead singer.. because the douche was too busy making an ass out of himself on stage, jumping off the drum platform and stuff.

 

[metalman]

What's Wrong?

Just my opinion...A member of Black Sabbath was asked what changed in their music through the years and he replied "In the beginning we had a real deep desire to write good stuff but after the fame and money was ours it wasn't that exciting anymore". I saw Pat Travers at the Biketoberfest motorcycle rally in Florida a few years ago and asked him what happened to rock and roll and he replied "MTV Man!". If it sounds good it is good.

 

[Myriad_Rocker]

Is the immature 'tard who gave me negative feedback afraid to sign their name?

They left: "No, youre an ass...cocksucker...hehe"

And who did I call an ass?

Not that I care or am going to make a big deal about this...I just find it kind of funny that they didn't leave their name.

 

[Frenchc]

not to be an ass, but if you don't like modern rock music or any kind of music for that matter because you feel theres something wrong with it then jsut don't listen to it.

sure its always on the radio, but just buy the tunes you like and ignore the ones you don't.....there are certainly plenty of good bands that are out there

jsut my two cents

 

[Myriad_Rocker]

not to be an ass, but if you don't like modern rock music or any kind of music for that matter because you feel theres something wrong with it then jsut don't listen to it.

sure its always on the radio, but just buy the tunes you like and ignore the ones you don't.....there are certainly plenty of good bands that are out there

jsut my two cents

Who said I didn't like modern rock? If you would have READ the title, part of it said aside from musical tastes! There's so much complaining about modern music now days and I hear a lot of people say the music sucks and there's too much compression, blah blah. But I wanted to get some more insight. Not shit like, "The music sucks".

 

[PowRGnome]

I bet Franz Ferdinand (so-called "Saviors of Rock") left you the negative feedback. I'm with a lot of you guys. I'm 21 and I'll blast Motown before I have some modern rock on as background music. Part of it is definitely the slew-of-bands mentality that the record companies use and another part of it might be that the Velvet Revolver/Chevelle sound is just old, and AC/DC did it better anyway.

Mixerman's totally right about rock constantly being on the edge of completely collapsing into choas (paraphrase). Even when you hear that sparse AC/DC drum beat you know that any second Angus is going to explode...or do you? Same with Zeppelin, same with Floyd in a different kind of way, same with Rush, same with the Stones...the list goes on. You hear this undynamic (yeah, that's definitely part of it), predictable music on the radio, and where's that threat of total revolt? Is Carter Beauford's kit potentially wired with dynamite? No, and it doesn't matter how technically proficient he is, or if he tests well with the markets, he's not 1% of the drummer Moon was.

Oh, hey guys, I gotta go. Long reverbs and dark drums are coming back and I want my band to be in on it. Maybe we can even get on a major! Life would sure be sweet then!

 

[Frenchc]

I didn't say you didn't like modern rock music I was just refering to music in general and how people complain about it

 

[iwantmypie]

Last year, the Living End toured with Taking Back Sunday.. and can you believe that Taking Back Sunday was the headliner? over The Living End?

That is messed up. The Living End is by far one of my favorite modern bands. THEY SHOULD OPEN UP FOR NOBODY!!!! HEADLINERS FOR LIFE!!

 

[greenascanbe]

There has always been a derived pattern in popular music. After Motley Cure revived the “Glam” look of the 70’s for Theater of Pain even established acts like Ozzy and Judas Priest started dressing the same. Most added synths when Bon Jovi’s “Slippery When Wet” broke big. And of course everyone had to record the “power ballad.” Then as Guns and Roses broke the mold everyone went back to being ugly and bad.

Same thing with Teen Pop after New Edition proved to be a commodity.(See New Kids, Debbie Gibson) The cycle repeated it’s self in the 90’s with the last crop of boy bands.

So the phenomenon is nothing new, record companies are almost always going to try to take a piece of the pie when it comes to trends instead of gambling on the next big sound. Some will take a chance but only after an act has proven to be a regional success.

 

[grn]

there are a couple good rock bands coming out now... you just have to know where to look... actually there are quite a few good bands out now... but they're not very big

 

[Chris Shaeffer]

there are a couple good rock bands coming out now... you just have to know where to look... actually there are quite a few good bands out now... but they're not very big

Spill, man. I've been aching for a good rock band for the past decade.

- Chris

 

[BRIEFCASEMANX]

Death From Above's album "You're a woman, I'm a machine" is pretty rock and roll, in that "i'm strung out and don't give a fuck" kind of way. The vocals are awesome.

http://www.myspace.com/DEATHFROMABOVE1979

the songs with the pink album art. I don't like their newer stuff. I'm sure most of you will hate this, it's only 2 guys, but at least it's not your typical radio band.

 

[Chris Shaeffer]

They apparently like eye-catching, blonde, waif-like friends...

 

[BRIEFCASEMANX]

They apparently like eye-catching, blonde, waif-like friends...

I don't think they're the only ones!