Another Wiring Question

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I've got the modding bug, i've ordered new saddles, and a new pup, and am planning my next mods, so my question is, if i put in three pickups and two of them are Humbuckers(one full and one hot rail, and the third a single coil) will On-on switches work for turning off the humbuckers and can push-pull pots also be wired into the mix?
 
I'm afraid I'm unclear what you are after. Certainly, all those things can be used, but you have to know what you want them to DO.

But here is a clever way to wire them -

http://www.seymourduncan.com/support/wiring-diagrams/schematics.php?schematic=1h_1s_1h_1v_1t_5w_as

Wired this way, the 2 and 4 positions will tap the humbuckers, and you will still have hum canceling with the middle pickup. If you think you will sometimes want the humbuckers to STAY humbucking with the middle pickup, you can disconnect the wire going to the 5-way switch. And you could use another push/pull switch to turn on the neck pickup in any position.


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okay, I've done my limited best to draw a diagram of what i'm talking about.
The 3 on-on switches are just like on the fender jaguar which i would be buying from warmoth. the humbuckers are four wire from guitar fetish, and the pushpull pots from there aswell, is it just a pretty thought but relatively useless? or would a 5-way do more? should the single coil be reverse wound for when the humbuckers are tapped?
i thought of the switches because i want to be able to just use the center single coil as i may choose a p90 or a single coil with pbass poles.
 

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I'm only just getting into this myself, but the idea seems workable to me. Am I correct in thinking that if you just hook the red and white conductors together and not to anything else, a humbucker is wired just like a single-coil? If so, if you weren't interested in coil-tapping, I'd assume you'd just wire it like this:

http://www.seymourduncan.com/suppor...matics.php?schematic=3s_1v_1t_3on-offswitches

To incorporate the push-pulls, instead of just hooking the red / white wires together, I'd hook them up to the push pulls as in

http://www.seymourduncan.com/support/wiring-diagrams/schematics.php?schematic=2h_2v_2t_3w_2pp

so that the signal goes through one coil and comes back through the ground when the knob is pulled up.

I'm thinking that if you want no hum when you're playing through one coil of one hb and the single-coil, then they need to have two directions of windings between the two. But the hb has two different windings inside of it, doesn't it? If you don't have a reverse-wound single in the middle, you may be able to kill the hum in this situation by making a careful choice of which coil you keep active.

I'd be interested to hear if this would work. I'll keep watching this thread.
 
You've said what kind of switches you want to use, but not what you want to do with them. A switch is just a switch - it doesn't tell me what you want it to do.

If, as it appears, you want to do separate on-off switches for you pickups, I would recommend against it. Most people find them unwieldy. It is difficult to make changes on the fly with them, which is why I much prefer a five-way switch, using push/pull pots to get you other options.


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yes individual on-offs. on the fly? you mean while playing? and is that all that is unwieldy?
 
MatchBookNotes said:
http://guitarelectronics.zoovy.com/product/SWR61/6Way_Rotary_Switch.html maybe a 6 way rotary switch is for me? is it possible to have it just have the centre pickup on and various other configurations? hmm, from doing some reading, maybe i can get what i want with this and a push/pull pot
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A four-pole rotary pot is very versatile. I find them hard to deal with on the fly (yes, while playing), but a lot of people feel differently on that one. You can do pretty much whatever you want with those switches, though sometimes you need to get creative with your switching.


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MatchBookNotes said:
I finally recieved my parts today, my only issue is finding a diagram on how to wire my guitar. i can't find a diagram for 1 humbucker, 1 single, 3-way and 1 volume, 1 tone, both 500k pots. should i be able to figure it out from this diagram though? http://www.seymourduncan.com/support/wiring-diagrams/schematics.php?schematic=2h_1v_1t_3w
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Yeah, just follow that. Normally the black wire on the single coil goes to ground, and the white wire is the signal wire. If the single coil is a Fender, you will probably have to reverse that.

If it's a blade type switch (like a Tele) just wire it like a Tele, but with the red and white wires tied together.


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alright one last round of questions, is the fifth wire that's silver just a ground and if it is should solder it to the pot to ground it or the bridge? and should the 'red and white' actually just be taped off?
 
MatchBookNotes said:
alright one last round of questions, is the fifth wire that's silver just a ground and if it is should solder it to the pot to ground it or the bridge? and should the 'red and white' actually just be taped off?
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Red and white need to be soldered to each other and then either taped or shrink tubed off so they don't come in contact with any other wires.

The bare wire is the shield ground, and should be grounded to whatever you are using as a ground buss (usually the back of a pot).


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