Another newbie (long post)

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Hi everyone,

I'm another new user here, so here's my intro.

I've been messing with home recording going on 17 years, starting with a Tascam 4-track Portastudio in about 1991-92. It was magic then, but I soon realized there had to be something better. I finally made the jump to Cakewalk Music Creator 2002 and have a bunch of unfinished projects. I now have CWMC 4, which I'm just getting used to after putting recording on the back burner for several years.

I've been burned by entry-level attempts at 24-bit recording: I bought the Audigy SoundBlaster for the desktop, as well as the SB Live! external USB. I didn't have the software to record 24-bit until recently getting CWMC 4. Only then did I learn that the Audigy cards are apparently useless for digital recording. I'm back to 16-bit recording, at the urging of a Guitar Center pro audio salesman who insisted that 16-bit recording is sufficient, given today's limited media applications for 24-bit. After trying a new USB 1.0 mixer and being disappointed with the 0.3 + second latency, I returned the mixer and decided just to go with analog line-in. I didn't see the sense in paying more than twice as much for USB 2.0.

Anyway, I've been working on my setup, which is of course very rudimentary. I have an AKG dynamic mic, as well as a new AKG condenser mic I haven't yet tried. I'm running the condenser mic and my Strat and bass through an M- Audio Buddy preamp into a Behringer Eurorack UB802 mixer, from which I'm running a line into an H-P Laptop. Also feeding into the mixer is my Yamaha Portasound digital keyboard, which is a step above entry-level, but far from pro-grade. The onboard sound device for the laptop uses the Conexant HD driver.

Right now my biggest issue is trying to minimize electronic noise. I'll be posting more about that in other forums, but I'll just start off by saying that my number one obstacle (besides my limited abilities on the instruments!) is noise and interference. Part of that may be due to EMF's, since my equipment is all in a pretty cramped space.

As far as my musical tastes and interests, they are wildly varied. My favorite rock music includes the likes of Beatles, Stones, Pink Floyd, Zeppelin, U2, Dylan, Neil Young and the Who. Far from original I know, but they're a goldmine for my inspiration after many years. I also have an interest in recording alt-country, Chicago and Delta blues, and some Brit-pop-based sounds. I have a myriad of riffs I've composed and recorded with various devices over the years, which I would like to concentrate on and get into a passable demo form.

Anyway, thanks for reading and I hope to meet some like minds and gain more perspective.

John
 
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Hi everyone,

I'm another new user here, so here's my intro.

I've been messing with home recording going on 17 years, starting with a Tascam 4-track Portastudio in about 1991-92. It was magic then, but I soon realized there had to be something better. I finally made the jump to Cakewalk Music Creator 2002 and have a bunch of unfinished projects. I now have CWMC 4, which I'm just getting used to after putting recording on the back burner for several years.

I've been burned by entry-level attempts at 24-bit recording: I bought the Audigy SoundBlaster for the desktop, as well as the SB Live! external USB. I didn't have the software to record 24-bit until recently getting CWMC 4. Only then did I learn that the Audigy cards are apparently useless for digital recording. I'm back to 16-bit recording, at the urging of a Guitar Center pro audio salesman who insisted that 16-bit recording is sufficient, given today's limited media applications for 24-bit. After trying a new USB 1.0 mixer and being disappointed with the 0.3 + second latency, I returned the mixer and decided just to go with analog line-in. I didn't see the sense in paying more than twice as much for USB 2.0.

Anyway, I've been working on my setup, which is of course very rudimentary. I have an AKG dynamic mic, as well as a new AKG condenser mic I haven't yet tried. I'm running the condenser mic and my Strat and bass through an M- Audio Buddy preamp into a Behringer Eurorack UB802 mixer, from which I'm running a line into an H-P Laptop. Also feeding into the mixer is my Yamaha Portasound digital keyboard, which is a step above entry-level, but far from pro-grade. The onboard sound device for the laptop uses the Conexant HD driver.

Right now my biggest issue is trying to minimize electronic noise. I'll be posting more about that in other forums, but I'll just start off by saying that my number one obstacle (besides my limited abilities on the instruments!) is noise and interference. Part of that may be due to EMF's, since my equipment is all in a pretty cramped space.

As far as my musical tastes and interests, they are wildly varied. My favorite rock music includes the likes of Beatles, Stones, Pink Floyd, Zeppelin, U2, Dylan, Neil Young and the Who. Far from original I know, but they're a goldmine for my inspiration after many years. I also have an interest in recording alt-country, Chicago and Delta blues, and some Brit-pop-based sounds. I have a myriad of riffs I've composed and recorded with various devices over the years, which I would like to concentrate on and get into a passable demo form.

Anyway, thanks for reading and I hope to meet some like minds and gain more perspective.

John
Okay... first. Never apologize. This is no where near a long post. You should see some of the... uh... stuff that gets posted in the cave.

You need to upgrade your I/O and, yes, this will cost some money. But hopefully not much.

Bottom of the barrel with decent results that won't get a bunch of people yelling at me would be to suggest that you purchase a M-Audio 2496 PCI adapter. You might also consider a M-Audio DMP-3 preamp. The Audio Buddy doesn't exactly suck, but neither does it shine

I also strongly recommend that you read tweakheadz audio tutorials until your head aches.

Luck!


Edit: Just realized that you have a laptop. Whoops! Forget the PCI adapter. I'm using a Alesis IO/2 USB interface which has worked out quite will for me, but YMMV.
 
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Luck!


Edit: Just realized that you have a laptop. Whoops! Forget the PCI adapter. I'm using a Alesis IO/2 USB interface which has worked out quite will for me, but YMMV.

I actually may consider the PCI route eventually, when the time comes for a new desktop I may just move our current one into my studio. Enamored as I am with using a laptop and having a "mobile" studio I can wheel from room to room, I'd much rather be tethered with better audio quality.

Thanks for the tip!
 
I too ran into excessive noise when using the onboard soundcard on my laptop... Turns out it was the lousy filtering from the laptop's power supply...

Try unplugging your laptop from power and see how much of the noise dissappears...
 
I too ran into excessive noise when using the onboard soundcard on my laptop... Turns out it was the lousy filtering from the laptop's power supply...

Try unplugging your laptop from power and see how much of the noise dissappears...

+1000, I have had similar issues with my laptop, unplug it and run on the battery and the noise should go away...
 
My laptop goes the other way, noise when plugged in, quiet on batteries.
USB 1.1 was never gonna work, I don't know why they even tried.
2.0 is mildly better. Firewire even better. Pci is pretty rock solid.
Your laptop's 5300 hardrive is going to be a weak link when you have more
than just a few tracks. You processor and ram will have more to do with
latency than than your choice of usb or firewire, and if you go firewire, your
internal firewire specifications (Texas Instruments if the chip of choice) can make
even that unusable.
 
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