Another newb question:

[jrhager84]

I was wondering something, because I have to get all of my tracks from the studio we recorded at:

When you mix something, use plugins, eq etc. doesn't it process it all "on-the-fly"?

the reason I ask this is, if he gives me all of our tracks, they're going to be "raw" and have no eq/plugins/effects/etc., right?

.....and now to the 2nd part of my question:

Is there any way you can solo a track, mix it w/ all the eq/plugins, then save it as a modified .wav file? That way you're not wasting channels/cpu/etc. by doing something you've already finalized?

Example:

you can only use 1 instance of 1176 (just for example)

You need it used a total of 4 times... So you run it through the first track, dial it in, and record it.....save it as the modified file.

Repeat for 2, 3, and 4.

Then just mix everything else down.

Wouldn't that work?

I want the mix to sound like what he burned, but it only sounded that way in his program and during mixdown with the effects and plugins turned on, which means it's still the raw file...which means no effects for Joel....*sob*

 

[Tifstorey]

I dont think i quite understand exactly what you mean.. But if this 'guy' is giving you the tracks you recorded at the studio as a final mix, then yes, the effects etc will all be bounced down with it in a .wav (most probably).

You can mix down each instrument seperate with the settings and then put them together again, but this wouldn't accomplish much as they're all bounced down with the effects..

Dont know if that's answered your question.. dont really understand what you mean, but hey.. i had a go

 

[jrhager84]

What I was referring to is this:

I don't own or have the plugins that he used to produce the EP. Which means, if he didn't bounce everything down individually, I won't have any of the effects on ANY of the tracks...That's really what I was getting at. I'd want him to bounce individually so I don't need to use any effects of my own (cause mine suck). I just basically want to put them together, and mix them...(plugins not included). Did that explain it a little better?

 

[danny.guitar]

Tell him to render the tracks individually with the FX applied.

Then, if you have the same recording software as he does, he can also give you the session file + all rendered tracks and you can open it right up.

Otherwise, you'll have to start a new session, add the tracks, and align them yourself to get them in time.

"On-the-fly" or RealTime processing is when the computer is applying the effects as its played back. "Destructive" processing means you're adding the effects to the WAV file itself and it cannot be undone (unless you click the Undo menu afterwards).

Your DAW should have options for "bouncing" tracks, which will apply the FX to the wav file itself. Then you can remove the FX from the track and free up some CPU.

 

[Freudian Slip]

I guess I don't understand why you would want to remix the tracks your self and keep all this guys effects?

I would inquire how much your going to have to pay the guy to get the individual effected tracks and think about takeing that money and having him fix what you don't like.

If you still want the effected tracks you may want to reconsider and get the uneffected tracks instead or also. It's harder to physicaly edit effected tracks and have the edits sound right in certain cases. Effects are also such a huge part of the mix and if you want to change them you're stuck. If you had both you could substitute the raw tracks for effected ones you don't like.

Just some food for thought.

Oh ya if he has done this much he will know to render each track with the blank spots all the way from the begining so you don't have to align the tracks your self. Just mention it to him to make sure.

F.S.

 

[jrhager84]

This guy's really pissing me off. I found out he's leaving the state at the end of the month, and he literally REFUSED to bounce all FX individually.......so I'm stuck with RAW ass tracks... What makes me even MORE upset, is the fact that he's even hesitant to even tell me WHAT effects he used.....Man this guy pisses me off. In a way I'm glad he's leaving. I was gonna record myself from now on anyways LOL.

 

[jdier]

I was wondering something, because I have to get all of my tracks from the studio we recorded at:

When you mix something, use plugins, eq etc. doesn't it process it all "on-the-fly"?

not always, but in most cases yes. In some cases where CPU processing power is at a premium a mixer may choose to print the effect to disk meaning that they commit that effect to that track for good.

the reason I ask this is, if he gives me all of our tracks, they're going to be "raw" and have no eq/plugins/effects/etc., right?

In almost all cases, this is right. You will get raw tracks.

.....and now to the 2nd part of my question:

Is there any way you can solo a track, mix it w/ all the eq/plugins, then save it as a modified .wav file? That way you're not wasting channels/cpu/etc. by doing something you've already finalized?

Yes. This can be done. I run Sonar and it is wicked easy and quick to do. It can be done in any audio program, but I am not sure how easy/quick it would be to do it. They may have to do it one track at a time.

Example:

you can only use 1 instance of 1176 (just for example)

You need it used a total of 4 times... So you run it through the first track, dial it in, and record it.....save it as the modified file.

Repeat for 2, 3, and 4.

Then just mix everything else down.

Wouldn't that work?

I want the mix to sound like what he burned, but it only sounded that way in his program and during mixdown with the effects and plugins turned on, which means it's still the raw file...which means no effects for Joel....*sob*

Call him back up and tell him what you want. You will likely have to pay for his time to do it, but it should be do-able.

 

[TragikRemix]

i guess its a pain for him to drag a folder full of BS audio tracks and burn them, let you sort thru them atleast..

thats why i do my own thing

 

[TuoKaerf]

Depends the circumstances.

I'm more than happy to render effects when I'm working in the box, since all I have to do is copy the settings for RTAS or TDM plugs over to the AudioSuite versions and render each track.

However, if I have a 40 some track mix that I did on a large board, they're paying big time for me to spend the time sending all that back into Pro Tools track by track.

I usually give mix stems anyway of everything, but I usually refuse to do it for every track unless they spend the money for me to sit there for an extra 2 days. They can have the outboard recall sheets.