An even bigger holy fucking shit. Davisound as a company really exsists!!!!!!!!

[Michael Jones]

I think the wood is fantastic looking. Yes, wood burns but it can be treated...plus starting a piece of wood on fire by just getting it hot on one side is very unlikely.

And who knows...audio circuits are very sensitive to outside forces...maybe wood does sound a little better! Regardless, it still looks cool.

I think that when ordering a product from someone, you should know a little bit about the company first, thus there would be less stress at times like these.

Slackmaster 2000

Yeah wood looks great no doubt about it, and the DavisSound pre's look fantastic! But if everything else in your rack is silk screened metal, the wood is gonna stick out like a sore thumb, and IMHO, look out of place.
Of course, you could always have a rack full of DavisSound pre's!

 

[Recording Engineer]

Well, they sure DO stick-out, but I wouldn't say like a sure thumb... Nobody has EVER said my TB-1 and TB-8 look odd in the racks next to all the metal cabinet gear... In fact, it's usually the first thing they ask about, as far as gear goes... That'll change with my console though.

pay attention to what i say, not what I "pretty much say"......If i wanted you to shut up, i would have no problems saying it.......

Well, I took it as the same thing, just a different choice of words.

And I doubt I'm the only one who originally saw it that way, but thanks for the clarification... Though I still have nothing to say about it.

 

[regebro]

The page is WAAAAAAAAAAYYYYY too long and it's tough to tell what you are actually buying.

They have just cut and pasted their website, which is also one big fucking and very confusing page.

They (or rather he, I would guess) obviously have no idea of how to present your products. The whole company seems to be a complete joke.

Hey, Mr Davisound: Hire a manager!

 

[Recording Engineer]

Actually, you're wrong... Most of the text I read is NOT on their website, unless specifically stated that the website was being quoted. I should know too, because I've actually read the entire website and the eBay listing too. This is unlike most people who criticize the website and just browse or scan; be it when it's out of honest curiousity or when specifically in search of negative fuel.

They've been in business for over 32 years... Nothing mismanaging about that! Staying in business is priority # 1 when it comes to managing ANY business!

EVERYTHING that is DaviSound that I can think of off the top of my head right now, which iincludes management, goes 180 degrees against the mainstream. I'd say current Neumann is MUCH more mismanaged, by FAR!!! Or, going the other way, is MUCH better managed! I mean, they sure do sell!!! And that's what is most important, right? Well, it should be... I now FINALLY see what you mean! DaviSound is most definitely mismanaged as sales are NOT their most important thing! They've STILL have it all wrong after all these years!!!

Most people would not say one negative thing about Neumann, as they're still creme de la creme to them. Not me... Neumann has slipped by MUCH in my opnion!!! What made Neumann "Neumann" is long-gone. Whether that is positive or negative is a subjective thing, but I'm just stating when I feel is "The way it is."

But it sounds to me like you're talking more about marketing and/or advertising ...

DaviSound is managed the way the owner believes DaviSound should be managed. NOTHING is going to change that. And EVERYTHING that is DaviSound (whether it be design philospohy, business philosophy, or outright management) is what drove me to my first purchase in the first place!

In fact, if there is ANYTHING about those three things that makes you have one bit of concern when it comes to DaviSound at all, then DaviSound is NOT for you! Period! Move-on! Nothing wrong with that! I've said this type of thing numerous times.

 

[regebro]

Actually, you're wrong... Most of the text I read is NOT on their website, unless specifically stated that the website was being quoted.

Oh, OK, I didn't really read it, it just looked exactly like their website, so I just assumed it was. My bad, then.

EVERYTHING that is DaviSound that I can think of off the top of my head right now, which iincludes management, goes 180 degrees against the mainstream.

I'd say that having crappy websites is mainstream. Then again, the davisound website is a singular piece of almost superhuman crappiness, so maybe you are right there too.

DaviSound is most definitely mismanaged as sales are NOT their most important thing!

Well, no, and yes. I mean, I guess actually giving customers information about the product in an accessible and understandable way would indeed increase sales. If your goal is to increase sales, or just to present a good service to your customers or potential customers, it both works.

And if your management goal is to make people confused and make sure you get no new customers, then why have a website in the first place?

But then, what do I know. Maybe the potential customers LIKE that website.

In fact, if there is ANYTHING about those three things that makes you have one bit of concern when it comes to DaviSound at all, then DaviSound is NOT for you! Period! Move-on! Nothing wrong with that! I've said this type of thing numerous times. [/B]

Ah yes, the goal with the website is then to drive away everybody that doesn't like the website. I see. If you don't like the website, you are not allowed to buy anything. Or maybe you'll just get put on hold and have to wait for you product for a year.

 

[acorec]

I think the wood is fantastic looking. Yes, wood burns but it can be treated...plus starting a piece of wood on fire by just getting it hot on one side is very unlikely.

And who knows...audio circuits are very sensitive to outside forces...maybe wood does sound a little better! Regardless, it still looks cool.

I think that when ordering a product from someone, you should know a little bit about the company first, thus there would be less stress at times like these.

Slackmaster 2000

He uses wood to "warm up" the sound instead of toobs. Metal enclosures are "brittle" and "metallic" sounding.

 

[Wide Awake]

He uses wood to "warm up" the sound instead of toobs. Metal enclosures are "brittle" and "metallic" sounding.

The cedar sounds warmer to me than the teak or maple. But as always, YMMV.

 

[acorec]

The cedar sounds warmer to me than the teak or maple. But as always, YMMV.

Umm..... Maybe. Depends on what mic you use. I agree with you partially. But, if you use the ceder one, it tends to get rid of the butterflies in the performer's stomach. That's why they make ceder closets............

 

[Outlaws]

I don't really care if it is cedar or teak or maple.......as long as I get my stupid preamp soon. Fucker answers emails ASAP.........but when you try to have a discussion about getting a refund..........oh.......hey.........no response. Well, maybe I get a response, just not anytime soon

 

[littledog]

Most people would not say one negative thing about Neumann, as they're still creme de la creme to them.

That part was a joke, right?

or maybe you need to get out more often...

 

[chessrock]

Then again, the davisound website is a singular piece of almost superhuman crappiness, so maybe you are right there too.

I'm not normally one to go out of my way to actually agree with Regeblow, but I must admit that's a pretty astute observation.

 

[Recording Engineer]

That part was a joke, right?

or maybe you need to get out more often...

You're probably right. I DO need to get out more often! Too damn busy recording lately... Haven't had time to spend much time here... That's alright though, too much bullshit going-on 'round here lately anyway for me to enjoy the all the positive interaction going-on here.

 

[Recording Engineer]

Well Outlaws, let me just say I certainly hope you get your refund... As at this point, even if it was the sweetest bliss to your ears ever, you'll still hate it!

If you don't get your refund, go ahead and get that transaction set-up and ready to go with c7sus, so that you can receive all your money back within a week after you get the preamp.

Otherwise, if you're really that upset (That concept I will NEVER understand here.), forget the lawyer-threat thing and get it into action NOW... And leave all your hostility behind. As I can already tell you, the hostility you display here will NOT fly in court!

 

[acorec]

The funny thing here is, no matter how great the product is, this company is doing themselves in by pulling this shit. If Davisound wants to stay in buisiness, he better keep to his shipping schedule. This is probably the beginning of real trouble for this company. There is no excuse for super late shipping. It does not matter if there are 10 people who will buy the thing if the customer does'nt like it. Sloppy buisiness practice.

 

[sm2k]

Actually this is the way much of the business world works to some extent. If you're used to consumer outlets like musician's friend and such where the focus is efficient warehousing to provide next day shipping, then delays like this would probably seem a bit extreme. Otherwise, this is not out of the ordinary for handmade equipment.

Slackmaster 2000

 

[jet-rocker]

Delays are one thing. But it is poor business practice to solicit more orders, when you can't keep up with the ones you've got.

And that ebay ad was just REALLY weird, and disconcerting.

-Jtt

 

[Recording Engineer]

Are you kidding? Like you've EVER seen ANY company of ANY sort, at ANY level, not advertise, market, or take-on new orders while they're backordered or behind in ANY WAY?! Because THAT would be poor business practice!

 

[Recording Engineer]

I also find it "interesting" how many people give their opinion of DaviSound and have NEVER had ANY experience with DaviSound or ANY other hand-built and/or custom companies.

And with all these pre-decisive negative attitudes where it sounds as though they've had some rather bad funk with DaviSound, while it comes from NOTHING other than their own insecurities, fueled by NOTHING other than a few comments on DaviSound's website and/or DaviSound's website layout and design, I strongly recommend those people to stay away from DaviSound gear or ANY other hand-built and/or custom gear by ANY other manufacturer, as you will NOT be happy with them. In fact, it would only be asking for trouble!

As surely, if Outlaws was to ever try and deal with Stephen Paul Audio and it took as long as it is taking for them to finish my microphone or Harvey's microphone(s), he'd have filed a lawsuit within 3-4 months after the work was commissioned, and they'd finally now be having their court date set, 3 years later!

 

[jslator]

As surely, if Outlaws was to ever try and deal with Stephen Paul Audio and it took as long as it is taking for them to finish my microphone or Harvey's microphone(s), he'd have filed a lawsuit within 3-4 months after the work was commissioned, and they'd finally now be having their court date set, 3 years later!

Under those circumstances, I think I would have just asked Mr. Paul for my mic back. And I'm sure he would have given it back. If he hasn't gotten to it in three years, I doubt he ever will.

I don't understand why you and csus7 think that shitty service automatically equals great product - as if anybody that brushes you off for several months or even years must be a genius.

 

[chessrock]

It certainly makes a good argument for the "big manufacturer."