Am I doing this right?

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Hey All,

I have an album that I will soon be burning to disc to make a master CD so that I can get it into distribution.

My tracks are mastered in Protools 9 at 24bit 48khz with the Waves L3 Multi Limiter.

I need to eventually make dithered 16bit 44.1khz file .wav stereo interleaved files so that I can burn them to a CD with them sounding the most like my 24bit 48 tracks.

In the Waves L3 Multi Limiter, there's an option for Dithering that I have turned to none (because I want to use the Ozone Maximizer Mbit+ Dither as it is better.)

I've read that it is best to downsample from 48khz to 44.1khz and stay at 24bit. How do I go about doing that? Do I simply bounce to disc at 44.1khz at 24bit? Then import that file into a new project and then apply the maximizer mbit+ dither plugin on the master fader and bounce out to disc again, but this time to 16 bit 44.1khz?

Thanks,

Will
 
Why go to disc at 48-44.1...just do that all in the DAW.....then to disc, you only drop a 44.1 16 bit file.
 
Sorry, not exactly sure what you meant by that. Could you explain that again?

Are you saying that I should just dither on my master channel under my master limiter and then bounce it to disc at 44.1khz 16bit? There's no point in outputting the mastered track to 44.1 24bit first and then applying the dither?

Also, I've attached an image to the maximizer plugin. As you can see, I have the "BYPASS" button turned on. Does this mean that ONLY the Mbit+ dither is turned on and everything else in the plugin is turned off? Or does pressing bypass turn off the dither as well? (My goal is to only use the mbit+ to dither)

mbit+.webp
 
Right.

Just add the dither as the last step in the DAW as you convert to 44.1/16...then drop that on a disc.

All I'm saying is....no point in going to disc at 44.1/24....then back to DAW...then again to disc at 44.1/16
 
Gotcha, thanks for the insanely fast and useful response!

To clarify, bypassing on that plugin doesn't effect the dither? In other words, I'd have to choose "none" under the dither settings in order to not use it, or not have the plug in on an insert?
 
Right....you should be able to still use the limiter portion without any dither...though there may be some limiter presets that automatically turn on the dither, so just check the dither section.

Dither isn't going to be a game changer one way or the other....but if you are going to apply it, it's always the last step before or as you go to 44.1/16
 
I'm terrible at this, sorry - I need to have it the other way around. I ONLY need to use the dither in Izotope, I don't want to use the limiter. I want to use the Limiter from the L3 Multi and then use ONLY the dither from Izotope.

I'm worried that by pressing the bypass button, it is turning off the entire plugin (including dither) because the plugin is greyed out as seen below:

mbit+ bypassed.webp

It looks to me from the image I posted a few posts back that bypassing won't turn off the dither as it didn't grey out that area, but I just want to make sure.

Thanks for the replies! appreciate it!
 

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Check your manual.
I see three Bypass buttons on that GUI....which one is for what is up to you to find out.

Not sure why you are so focused on the Ozone dither...as I said, dither is rarley a game changer, and I doubt you can hear the different dither types or brands.

Did someone just tell you that the Ozone was "the best"...?
 
I read a very in depth post comparing pow-r to mbit+ and many others and they stated they were blown away at the difference that mbit+ made, I haven't tested it. I'm actually doing that right now and that's why I'm posting, I haven't used ozone for dithering before. I always set it to none, but I am not 100% sure on how to only use dither while bypassing everything else in the plug-in.

Thank you for your manual suggestion, however I went through the manual and couldn't find out if the bypass also bypasses the dither section, or not.

The 3 bypasses all do the same thing. Each one shuts off the exact same stuff when enabled.
 
Hitting that bypass button turns off EVERY function of the Ozone plug-in. Dither or ANYTHING else that it offers. If the plugin box looks blue (as it does in your latest photos), then it is like the plug-in isn't even there. If it's white (as it is in the second photo), then it's doing it's dithering.
 
Honestly when it comes to dither, does it really matter what plug you use? I just use a freeware dither plug-in that's stand alone. It has never failed me, and I can't hear much difference (which is the point).
 
Thank you! So I guess I'll just stick with my L3 Multi Limiter and enable the dither on it. Unless you guys think that keeping it off in the L3 and applying the Powr one after it works better.
 
I use the L2 on my final pass, and I use one of the dither types that comes with it, whatever settings I choose.
 
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