Allen & Heath ZED 24 Vs. Presonus Firestudio Project

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Hey, at the moment i have the Allen & Heath ZED 24 which is great but it isn't firewire, where as the Presonus Firestudio Project is, but the Presonus Firestudio Project only has 8 inputs and is an audio interface.

So i am debating weather to keep the Allen & Heath ZED 24 or sell it and buy the Presonus Firestudio Project. If anyone has any opinions or experiences with the Presonus Firestudio Project that would be great, also i will be using it with Logic Pro 9!


Please help me make the right decision!
 
or you could wait until September and see if the A&H Zed R24 emerges from vapor land

the R24 will be significantly more expensive then the Presonus and until it shows up physically it is difficult to know if it will fix the issues with ZED R16

Again it depends on not only what you do, but what you want to do. If you need a control surface for your audio apps, the A&H will not accomplish that. But if you have a steady use for A&H EQ and like the faders it's unlikely that the Presonus will satisfy

but I do not see the R24 and the Project as being exactly the same type of beast. I looked at the Project but for the money it was not robust enough for me to be able to replace the mixer in any but the smallest of shows, a situation I already have covered fairly well.
 
or you could wait until September and see if the A&H Zed R24 emerges from vapor land

the R24 will be significantly more expensive then the Presonus and until it shows up physically it is difficult to know if it will fix the issues with ZED R16

Again it depends on not only what you do, but what you want to do. If you need a control surface for your audio apps, the A&H will not accomplish that. But if you have a steady use for A&H EQ and like the faders it's unlikely that the Presonus will satisfy

but I do not see the R24 and the Project as being exactly the same type of beast. I looked at the Project but for the money it was not robust enough for me to be able to replace the mixer in any but the smallest of shows, a situation I already have covered fairly well.


well i will be using it for my small home studio, and the ZED 24 really doesn't help as it's not firewire, so mixing drums is a pain.
 
not meaning to be overtly critical, and more other eyes down the road then OP, but . . . original query was virtually impossible to answer except as gossip (which device is sexier at the water cooler)

this is/was partially due to not having enough specific info concerning what you are attempting

there is an art to asking questions that garner responses that are useful and in OP's response it genuinely appears that he had more or less answered his own question prior to posting . . . He does not find the Zed24 to be useful in the studio!

Among the gear used to record live shows I have an A&H GL2400 (actually picked up by the partner & while item was budgeted if he had consulted me prior to getting it I would have insisted on a 2800) but I do not believe it has ever been used in project studio. While I did two projects last year for which I used 3 & 4 mics on the trap set it is far more common for me to deploy 9 or 13 (depending, on room, kit, genre, performer, etc) . . . but i also have converter options that allow me to track the minimums (24+, though 2 is far more common & seldom track more then 18 simultaneously) necessary for the way I work. But ADC does not require a board of any sort, & until you start spending an obscene amount of money pre-amp & (AND) routing options (hence my throw away concerning 2400 vs 2800 boards) tend to be ugly compromises.

While you certainly do not need 8+ channels of Neeve/API (for the record I have no Neeve and only four channels of 312) to record drums adequately in the home/project recording environment . . . to provide info that one feels they have to have a control surface with tactile feedback (i.e. faders) is important info to have going in, to anyone hoping to post even quasi useful (to OP) response

In a face to face consult with any complete novice I would not recommend any fader control surface . . . but for anyone who has enough experience to know how important the a tactile feedback control surface is to them . . . then in a purely digital project studio the A&H Zed24 is probably not going to be of much practical value . . . if you have it it certainly can be used. Unfortunately the USB send to computer is prefader, apparently, a curious choice for a device that only supplies a stereo pair ADC . . .

Again initial response was that Zed24 & Presonus Project were not products directed at the same way of working. Either can be used for both live and studio recording, with modifications, add on gear etc., each have different strengths, weaknesses . . .

@ a significantly higher price point (probably) the Zed R24 might address, at a not quite outrageous cost, what would seem to be (from OPs initial info) concerns . . .

again reason for this post has more to do with situation over (not only) last weak where initial inquiries simply failed to provide appropriate info for a functional response other then 'it depends'. Nor, not matter what it some times might look like, I'm not suggesting the need for Proustian length post. But I would suggest newcomers review similar inquiries, if they are actually interested in functional responses (as opposed to 'Sound Blaster rawks, API sucks balls'), prior to initial post.
 
I've been going through the ridiculous process of trying to find a suitable DAW controller suited to what i do, and by the looks of things, the R24 could very well fit the bill. Lets all keep our fingures crossed and hope that allen and heath produce what could potentially be an amazing product!

Only time will tell!
 
and the flying fader version is not going to be cheap . . .

w/o flying faders it will let me surplus the GL board (at no where near the cost of the R24) and make several variations of A/D/A redundant (without really making it cost effective to try to sell them) and probably shoot the board budget for 5 yr.

but have not been happy with any other current options in anywhere near the A&H price point . . . and since I mostly mix ITB, use outboard pres I do not need a console for majority of my studio projects

then there is the 'issue' that if it sells well enough to bring the price down manufacturing will be moved to China (and being no more jingoistic then perhaps necessary no matter what A&H might say I find quality control for Chinese assembled/manfct product to be more problematic so another toss up is buy UK manfct @ 'full' price or wait, hope the board sells well enough for price to come down . . . god, so many decisions
 
Well, if its as good as they say it is and does everything the prototype apparantly does, then i'll be saving the pennies.

Lets not forget what happened to the Tascam US-2400 :(
 
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