all you singers out there...

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One more point........
I notice that a lot of people try so hard to sound like a specific singer. Try to focus more on discovering what your voice is and developing that. Who knows, maybe someday you'll have that new voice everyone is trying to copy?
 
crazyjman said:
One more point........
I notice that a lot of people try so hard to sound like a specific singer. Try to focus more on discovering what your voice is and developing that. Who knows, maybe someday you'll have that new voice everyone is trying to copy?
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This is an EXCELLENT POINT! You, my friend, just earned yourself some rep points for that!

This is why singing along to prercorded songs can't be seen as "practicing". You have to sing scales, either with a prerecorded Tape/CD, or with a keyboard of some type. You need to be able to hit those notes exactly in your own voice.

For years, I was trying to sound like Geoff Tate from Queensryche, and Midnight from Crimson Glory, and Mark Baxter's book (Which was the first vocal book I owned - now I have a small library of this stuff) impressed upon me the concept of creating your own voice and style. I definitely have to give him credit for that.

Excellent point.

Tim
 
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Geoff Tate?? Holy shit Kudos to you. I couldn't even think of that. I could maybe do Lemmy with bronchitis on a good day.
 
crazyjman said:
Geoff Tate?? Holy shit Kudos to you. I couldn't even think of that. I could maybe do Lemmy with bronchitis on a good day.
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Take some opera lessons. :D
They will definitely inspire you to set and reach for lofty goals, or at least they did me. I don't exactly sound like him, but when I decided I wanted to really be able to sing (and not just whine like King Diamond ;)) that was who I had in mind. But, I have had a few people tell me I sound like the singer from Fates Warning, and I would always say (being a smartass), "Which one?" :p (They always say Ray Alder, but I prefer FW's original singer, John Arch, myself.)

http://www.nowhereradio.com/artists/album.php?aid=3073&alid=616

This was from 1998. (4 years after the previous one I posted. It was recorded live - I was playing drums and singing at the same time. This was still before I took any vocal lessons, but I had started singing lower in my register. If you listen with Winamp, I would set the EQ flat, but pull the 170 and 310 and 600 filters down. - This stuff was bass and low-mid heavy. I use 28" Kicks, and had them tuned fairly low at the time, and the bass player was playing through eight 15" speakers powered with 3,000 Watts. He was over there trying to not laugh and keep playing because the nut on the guitarist's guitar broke, but we kept going no matter what. I'm glad we did, because this was the only time this song ever made it to tape.)


Tim
 
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Day, night, driving, walking, in the shower, in the rain , in the sunlight, in the nude... where ever and whenever the mood strikes I'll sing.... I never feel nervous... not since I heard Guns & Roses live - he can sing ok in a studio, but he SUX live - and he got signed!!!! *BAH* Sure he puts on a good show, but he still sings like crap - so I'm ok with MY voice!

:)

- Tanlith -
 
tanlith said:
not since I heard Guns & Roses live - he can sing ok in a studio, but he SUX live - and he got signed!!!! *BAH* Sure he puts on a good show, but he still sings like crap - so I'm ok with MY voice!

:)

- Tanlith -
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Phil Collins is the same.

I remember the video with him and Patrick Bailey. They had a few shots of them practicing their parts live, and Bailey was awesome, while Phil Collins sucked so bad it wasn't funny - and that was at the height of his career as far as money/fame goes.



Tim
 
There is an old Russian proverb that (loosely translated) goes:

He who doesn't sing, doesn't really live.
 
Tim Brown said:
Take some opera lessons. :D
They will definitely inspire you to set and reach for lofty goals, or at least they did me. I don't exactly sound like him, but when I decided I wanted to really be able to sing (and not just whine like King Diamond ;)) that was who I had in mind. But, I have had a few people tell me I sound like the singer from Fates Warning, and I would always say (being a smartass), "Which one?" :p (They always say Ray Alder, but I prefer FW's original singer, John Arch, myself.)

http://www.nowhereradio.com/artists/album.php?aid=3073&alid=616

This was from 1998. (4 years after the previous one I posted. It was recorded live - I was playing drums and singing at the same time. This was still before I took any vocal lessons, but I had started singing lower in my register. If you listen with Winamp, I would set the EQ flat, but pull the 170 and 310 and 600 filters down. - This stuff was bass and low-mid heavy. I use 28" Kicks, and had them tuned fairly low at the time, and the bass player was playing through eight 15" speakers powered with 3,000 Watts. He was over there trying to not laugh and keep playing because the nut on the guitarist's guitar broke, but we kept going no matter what. I'm glad we did, because this was the only time this song ever made it to tape.)


Tim
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Tried to listen to your tune but I'm at work and they block us from any downloads or streams. I'll definitely check it out at home!
 
Tim Brown said:
Phil Collins is the same.

I remember the video with him and Patrick Bailey. They had a few shots of them practicing their parts live, and Bailey was awesome, while Phil Collins sucked so bad it wasn't funny - and that was at the height of his career as far as money/fame goes.



Tim
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Good example - I remember that video. And I would say the same goes for a LOT of the more famous "pros" out there. I'm a live music buff... I go to a LOT of shows/concerts/music fests etc... and I gotta say that it's becomming a rare treat to hear someone who sounds as good live as they do in the studio.

Live performance is becomming a lost art form - at least around here... mybe I should go visit Nashville for some inspiration.

- Tanlith -
 
jUST dO iT

Without going into tedious detail on how to sing, I want you to go ahead and learn about a dozen or so cover songs. Preferably they will be new, fresh and somewhat hip. If you live in a college town, you won't have any trouble finding little coffee-house type places where they will have "open Mic night"
Go to a few and check them out to see who goes there, what gets over, who gets over etc. Pick one where you feel that you could fit in on open mic nite.
Talk to the manager or whoever runs the show on open mic nite. You will probably get 5-10 minutes to sing. maybe more on a slow nite.
Choose one or two or more songs, depending on how much time you have to fill. Smile real big and keep your eyes moving so that you won't notice that they think you suck.(that will be the people who are going to sing next)
Enjoy the experience . If you do a passable job you will be invited back. If you do a great job, you may get laid, which is the real reason we all play and sing anyway.
writeon...chazba
 
Taking singing lessons will improve your singing;make you a better singer and it end there. Find a place to sing where there is a ready friendly crowd. You may not like it but I will do it the karaoke way. Go find a karaoke club and sing there.
 
Come on man. The only way to do it is to DO it... I know what you mean thought. Took me ages (Im 22 now by the way) to be comfortable with my voice. Difference is im a shite singer. Awful voice. Sometimes the only way to express yourself is to open your mouth and bite the bullet though! Good luck anyway.
 
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