All Guitarists Are Doomed !!!!!

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Well. That's was odd. I think played with that machine a one time. Or maybe the guitarist was just a bit stiff...
 
Damn!!!!! Now you guys found out my secret as to how I am such an awesome player..... :eek:
 
Not too impresive. You'd think that it would be able to play things way too complex for a human to handle but it just sounds like a mediocre guitar player.
 
I think we will be ok.. This think looks like it would play like Frankenstein.
 

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Hey, that thing is pretty cool! What would be a nice next step is to tie it in to some kind of synth guitar so you could maybe capture more of the essence of a human playing the guitar. Like the old player piano rolls that Gershwin and Jelly Roll Mortin created in the first part of the 1900's.

Just insert your favorite guitar, select a song/player... a personal performance by EVH!

Like most of us here, we have to many guitars anyway. We could see how classic shredder riffs sound on a Lotus Strat copy.... :)
 
I couldn't find any photos online, but if you are ever in the area of Spring Green, WI (near Madison) visit The House on the Rock. It is a house designed and built on a 60-foot chimney of rock. The thing that relates here is that there are several self playing music machines, including "The Blue Room" which is a mechanically operated symphony orchestra (not sure how many pieces, but it is more than 50, if memory serves). Though of course it can't compare to a human operated orchestra, it is really pretty cool to watch. :)

Tons of other attractions at the place too...
 
wtf, I was expecting a guitar that can shred its metal ass off. :( guess my expectations were too high
 
If you read the info on the page, they explain that only the first four frets of the guitar are covered by the mechanism. Makes sense, since it's a class project that is only supposed to demonstrate mechanical capability, not actually reproduce a skilled human sound. Also, it's got a plucking mechanism similar to that of a harpsichord, in which the string is actually plucked from below by the picks, as well as a second time as the silenoid returns the pick to its original location. So the vertical double picking is obviously going to sound a lot different than what a person would do.
 
Well Well Well, it had to come eh??!!!

Okay guys,

Great that we can joke about something like this, but it will happen eh and we all know that.

So about 50 years from now people will no longer know what a real guitar sounds like, just as they would not know what a real valve amp sounds like.

Amp modeling?

Who would have thought about this 15 yrs ago?

Gtr. modeling?

Player modeling?

Okay okay, see you in the next world, just make sure you have your slide and thumbpicks with you.

Eddie
 
Yeah...maybe they'll have a Behringer "Guitarist Modeler". It includes settings such as :
1) Randy Rhodes
2) Eddie VanHalen
3) Jimmy Page
3) Jimmy Hendricks
4) David Katauskas :D
5) George Lynch
6) ...

I do laugh at this too...but I agree...there will be automation for just about everything in the future. Just look at the Jetsons...it was on TV...so it HAS to be true.
 
i wonder if it can retune itself... that'd be pretty cool. can it strum? or is it just plucking all the strings for chords?

ha. they'll never take over. guitarists are the only people who know how to restring a guitar, and do you think a guitarist is ever going to restring a mechanical guitar? :D

but i see lots of potential for a machine that could play bass guitar... you'd only have to punch the information in once... :p

Andy
 
I think eventually they will have something that can play like a human but it won't look like that thing. It will probably have something that resembles a pair of human hands(since that's what the guitar was designed for) attatched to something like human arms. And once you've gone that far you may as well have a torso and a head with a voice so it can sing. And then why not give it legs and the ability to do other things? Like drive or shop or walk the dog.
Actually the evolution will probably work the other way and guitar playing will be one of the last things that they master but don't think that it's not coming. We laugh at this thing but we'll probably live to see robots that fulfill all the promises that movies and Science-Fiction writers have made to us.
But I'm not too worried or upset about it. If someone can actually create something that can play better(not necessarily faster or cleaner) than most humans, I'll listen to it. And I won't feel like a traitor to the human race and I won't lay down my old guitar. But it's all about the feeling that the music conveys, right? Doesn't matter if you get there with sweat and tears or with solenoids and microchips.
 
jalbert said:
I think eventually they will have something that can play like a human but it won't look like that thing. It will probably have something that resembles a pair of human hands(since that's what the guitar was designed for) attatched to something like human arms. And once you've gone that far you may as well have a torso and a head with a voice so it can sing. And then why not give it legs and the ability to do other things? Like drive or shop or walk the dog.
Actually the evolution will probably work the other way and guitar playing will be one of the last things that they master but don't think that it's not coming. We laugh at this thing but we'll probably live to see robots that fulfill all the promises that movies and Science-Fiction writers have made to us.
But I'm not too worried or upset about it. If someone can actually create something that can play better(not necessarily faster or cleaner) than most humans, I'll listen to it. And I won't feel like a traitor to the human race and I won't lay down my old guitar. But it's all about the feeling that the music conveys, right? Doesn't matter if you get there with sweat and tears or with solenoids and microchips.

So true man,

It will happen and I am not worried as well, but the truth is that the younger generation who will grow up with these machines will no longer know how the "real" thing sounded compared to the machine. Not really a problem eh? Since the machines will probably come very close, but still, the real feeling cannot be copied.

Now think about ampmodeling, right, if you have never played through a valve amp you may really dig the sound you may get from your ampmodeller. On the other hand if you have played through some of those well-known amps [think Marshall Superlead, JMP 45, Fender Twins, BAssmans etc.] you may feel different.

The thing with ampmodelling is: To get close to the sound of the modelled amp you would need to play through the same kind of speaker which was used in that particular amp. NOw buy some of those speaker cab. and you add up the price, so really you are defeating the object there. So ampmodeling is a quick fix, yes it is fine, but if you really like a certain sound, you might as well get that particular amp.

Okay perhaps a bit off-topic, but the same thing applies to this particular machine, it will be a quick fix for people who need instant guitarsounds to put on a record, so they can produce the music quickly, sell it, get over with it, and go the the next quick fix. ...........result is people will hear albums with have been made by robots, and in the long run we will get used to it.

Now a lot of this is already happening, what do you thing Protools does??? LIstnen and tell, and go back to the stuff which was made in the "old-fashioned" way...........................can you tell the difference? Off course you can, but you [that is us here, musicians, recordists and the like] are not like Joe Public, and records are not made for us, but for the masses, we can only serve the masses with our skills.

Eddie
 
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