Alan Hyatt

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No JS, the vitriol came from just a few small minded people and it wouldn't matter what forum the posts were in, these same people would still be there.
 
Why doesn't my wood xlr cord work? Remember, the bigger the grill, the bigger the sound. The smaller the grill, the smaller the sound. By the way, what's this phantom power I'm always reading about? Is that the best way to record spooky sounds or to emcee a D&D convention? How does a 9v battery power a mic that supposed to take 48v? Where the f*ck is that extra 38v coming from? Where the f*ck is that extra 38v coming from?????
 
capnreverb said:
Why doesn't my wood xlr cord work? Remember, the bigger the grill, the bigger the sound. The smaller the grill, the smaller the sound. By the way, what's this phantom power I'm always reading about? Is that the best way to record spooky sounds or to emcee a D&D convention? How does a 9v battery power a mic that supposed to take 48v? Where the f*ck is that extra 38v coming from? Where the f*ck is that extra 38v coming from?????
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you mean the other 39v? at any rate... that is a dang good question!
 
wow, guess I need to brush up on my math skills. I was wondering why that moron shoe I put on this morning fit so well.
 
I'm surprised Alan is still here but I think it's a good thing. I like the fact that some manufacturers and some pro users are here too. If there's no cross posting or overt advertising, even if there is a little, it's just one thread.

I have fun w/ conspiracy theories too. Maybe since there's more attention paid to threads w/ more posts and posted to recently, why wouldn't a manufacturer invite a little controversy to increase free publicity? Bands to it all the time, have fake rivalries. It happens everywhere. w/ out the controversy here, I would never have known about PMI/SP or Alan H.

So to everyone else, don't get pulled in and used. Don't believe everything you read or hear.

I'm not suggesting that happened, but I don't see any damage either. And I find it entertaining how many people get sucked into the fray.

back to the topic:
I really like affordable mics. My home studio isn't good enough to make use of anything else. If some pros are using affordable mics now, that's pretty cool. I'm sure I'll eventually get some SP's, just like I have berry, mxl, shure, and junky. It's a ton of fun to audition new mics, especially < $200.
 
alanhyatt said:
I am probably about to offend a few people here with a fairly long post, and I do not mean this about everyone, so to those supporters, please understand you all know what people I am directing this at, but in either case, here goes a five page war.

There are a few sarcastic opinions regarding a page on our web site, and another statement by someone who seems to be accusing us of false advertising. To those who enjoy being critical of PMI, let me remind you this is Home Recording, and what you offer is your opinion, as we all offer here, but your opinion is not fact, only what you think. My opinion may not be fact as well. This is fine by me, but there are more out there that agree with us than the few of you who don’t, however they are pros and you are, well…best I don't go there.

Some of you look for things to find so you can blow them out of proportion based on your opinions, while poking fun of what we say or do. If this is what you wish to do, fine, it is a free country…but many Grammy winning producers, engineers, and well known artists keep using Studio Projects microphones on their albums. Do they know something you don’t?

Tony Sheridan was the lead singer for Santana for 13 years, he preferred the T3 over the N company. In fact, he said the T3 was the best mic he had ever used for his voice, and on his latest CD project, he is using the T3. Simple Plan, and 3 doors down are very popular bands. Jeff Stinco from Simple Plan loved the mics and uses them all the time. Three Doors down just did a new video that features our mics. Chris Henderson went out of his way to use them on that video because he loves the mics on their recordings. James Taylor recently bought three C1's from Morgan at East Coast Music Mall, but we could not get a comment from him other than what the dealers said, which was James was very impressed. The list is quite long... These are just some of the latest, and the rest is on our web site. Perhaps you guys would care to post that link and discredit them as well.

Based on your opinions, you have to wonder why these professional users continue to use Studio Projects microphones. Shouldn’t they listen to your opinions? You seem to be the pros around here and go out of your way to make sure everyone else here sees your opinions, so why not these professional guys. I am sure they would love to hear from you.

Studio Projects are not the only microphones these artists use, but none the less, they are used on lead vocals, grand piano, drums, guitar, bass, dobro, and many more applications. Perhaps they should seek you're advice on what mikes to use and how to make records. Maybe if they listen to you, they will go as far in this industry as you have. I do not dispute you’re right to your opinion, but do not diminish theirs and others. I think they are the pros…Not You! Not that that matters, but don’t think you know it all and that your opinion is better than theirs.

Want more? Julian King, the lead engineer at Oceanway Nashville uses C1's for their Grand Piano tracks exclusively, as well as using C4’s on acoustic instruments that include guitar, dobro and others, and the T3 on many vocal tracks. He says Oceanway has the mic locker from hell, but he chooses the Studio Projects for many tracks because they sound as good as anything they have. Tools is what they are folks…nothing more. Now, why don't you look up his name in Google and find out his credits. Then find out how many Grammy's he has won, and then come back to this group and tell them. While you’re at it, tell the group how many credits you have and how many Grammy's you have won. Get my point yet…I doubt it!

Since you don’t, look up under Google search the name Steve Nathan. Steve is the hottest session player for keyboards in the world. Have a look at his credits. Steve does not agree with sdelsolray and bleyrad’s comments, but then sdelsolray and bleyrad along with a few others here at RO seem to know more than Steve Nathan does, so I guess you guys are the hottest session players in the world.

All these top professionals seem to think our mikes are every bit as good a tool as many German mics, but it is still ok that you don't. Steve Nathan just said this; “I must be sounding like a broken record by now, but I just can't get over how good those C-1s sound. Julian put one on Paul Franklin's dobro today. The presence and clarity was astounding. Paul swore that it was the best his dobro has sounded, "ever", and he's been the top guy in that chair for a very long time. Then there is Scott Rouse, another multi Grammy winner. He just told us about another Grammy nomination. He said, “Looks like we got a Grammy nod with those mics you loaned me."Christmas On The Mountain" is the album. It’s nominated for Bluegrass Album of the Year. To him we say..Good luck, I hope you win.

I realize this is Home Recording. You and a few others here like to have your fun, but I think you have nothing better to do with your time, so you criticize our products, or try to make fun of us. Well ok, that's fine if that is what you wish to do, but maybe you should try to learn how to use your mouthy talents for something else because I am just as tired of listening to you as perhaps you are of me. Microphones are tools. They all sound different. We never said we were an exact cloan of anything. We said our tools sound as good as any German tools…yes we mean microphones. SP works better than Neumann in many applications, and vice-versa.

The difference is clear, opinons are are just like, well you know...everyone has one. :eek:

In the end, the only outcome of this post will be more trash from you and the other few trashers here that are bent to try and discredit us. So get over it already. We stand behind our products as well or better than anyone else. If you don’t like them, don’t use them. All I can say is I am happy the professional community “is” using them.

The comments on our web site are not false, and not out of line, but I think you are :)
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Geez. Rather sensitive? Let's start over. PMI states on its website:

"Our mics are every bit as good or better at a fraction of the cost you would pay for a world class German microphone. No, we are not a German mic, but we sure do sound like those $3,000.00 models. We use an outstanding capsule based on a 1950's German design, but we have made it sonically better due to advanced manufacturing techniques. We know as much as about mics as any microphone company out there with the exception of what we charge for them."

I'm not going to get into any arguments with you about SP vs. German mics. Talk to Klaus Heyne about your "sonically better" mic capsule. I'm in the minority (according to you), and just a flunky at that (great ad hominum technique - almost as good as Limbaugh).

I'll just keep using my Neumann, Microtech Gefell and Schoeps mics to record my passion, solo fingerstyle guitar. To my ear, they work better for me. I don't know and frankly don't care if they work for anyone else. You can make all the claims you want. I don't give two shits, and I don't think anyone else does either. I'll use the mics I like best, and you can pimp the ones that make you money.

However, your web statement also said:

"We know as much as about mics as any microphone company out there with the exception of what we charge for them."

So I take it that you (and at least one other person in your company) have as much knowledge about microphones as the staff at Audio Technica, Blue, Josephson, Neumann, Oktava, ADK, Schoeps, AKG, DPA, Microtech Gefell, AEA, Korby, Rode, Telefunken USA, Lawson, Soundelux, Shure or numerous other mic companies? Wow. Let's all bow down to the hubristic master.
 
Well...considering that he's working with Tony Merrill who used to work with Stephen Paul and their frequently credited as being the go-to guys when it comes to the sub-micron diaphragm...

Of course, that's a completely different school of thought from the Klaus Heyne school of thought on microphone design...

Anyways, I'm actually being slightly silly here. I'm pretty sure further posts in this thread will not help any...shall we just quit it? Please?
 
sdelsolray said:
So I take it that you (and at least one other person in your company) have as much knowledge about microphones as the staff at Audio Technica, Blue, Josephson, Neumann, Oktava, ADK, Schoeps, AKG, DPA, Microtech Gefell, AEA, Korby, Rode, Telefunken USA, Lawson, Soundelux, Shure or numerous other mic companies? Wow. Let's all bow down to the hubristic master.
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Sdelsolray,

You, as probably many other members of this group, payed attention that I always stay out the wars--I have much more interesting things to do... microphones for example. But at this point I feel things are going way over the top.

Just out of curiosity, where did you get the idea that Alan (or at least one other person in his company) does not have as much knowledge about microphones as the staff at Audio Technica, Blue, Josephson, Neumann, Oktava, ADK, Schoeps, AKG, DPA, Microtech Gefell, AEA, Korby, Rode, Telefunken USA, Lawson, Soundelux, Shure or numerous other mic companies????

Have you ever talked to Alan (or another person in his company) on technical issues of building microphones??? Have they ever showed themselves unprofessional in these discussions??? Or is it one of numerous assumptions, so popular here???
Oh yeah, you are questioning their knowledge because YOU KNOW how to design microphones, so let's start technical discussion. Please tell me which aspects of SP design let you think that Alan or his staff don't know their shit? Please attach schematics, so we could have it in front of our eyes while bashing PMI guys. Or even better, you could present your own design, so you could challenge Alan and show what the real pro means.

I will go on and tell you more--- many of Neumann, Gefell etc. mics are POORLY DESIGNED. If you know something about microphone designes, you will know what I am talking about. If you just need confirmation--ask Klaus Heyne.

You know, mediocrity never admits itself as such, but seeks to throw durt into someone who actually knows something. And it is so easy to do it over internet. Some folks here go on to say even to Harvey "f*ck you" and probably are very proud of it (at least I never seen apologies).

C'mon guys, what are we doing here? where are we going? Are we talking about music and how to record it, or just find somebody knowledgable to throw durt, to please our ego??? Why wouldn't we remember that Alan is a human being? Imagine yourself in his skin getting THAT MUCH shit, as he gets here.
Oh yeah... I forgot.... you guys are angels with no sins, and know a lot.
That's right--pick up stones and throw them into Alan! GET HIM!!!
 
Marik and all

"Our mics are every bit as good or better at a fraction of the cost you would pay for a world class German microphone. No, we are not a German mic, but we sure do sound like those $3,000.00 models".

It may be even right, but the tone of such a statement is something where I have some problems.

I am very happy with a company such as Alan's, I wish they'd been there twenty years ago. Mics like the B1/B3 and T3 are wonderful mics, no doubt. I prefer a T3 over a TLM103 anytime.
But Alan is a very passionate guy and sometimes he reacts very heavy and though I can understand why, I don't know what to think about it.

Klaus' forum was mentioned here, go there and see how the heavyweights go along with eachother, guys like David Satz, Oliver Archut, Tony Merrill, David Josephson, Ross Hogarth and Klaus Heyne himself have a respectful and very high level discussion about mics, where guys like you and me can learn a lot.
http://recforums.prosoundweb.com/in.../20/1221/?SQ=96ca6b32dee083c8938a6ed4769e3d1a

Peace, Han
 
Sklathill said:
Well...considering that he's working with Tony Merrill who used to work with Stephen Paul and their frequently credited as being the go-to guys when it comes to the sub-micron diaphragm...

Of course, that's a completely different school of thought from the Klaus Heyne school of thought on microphone design...

Anyways, I'm actually being slightly silly here. I'm pretty sure further posts in this thread will not help any...shall we just quit it? Please?
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Unfortunately, I read in another forum from at least two very well known mic re-builders and one very,very famous producer/mic user that Stephen Paul's modified mics don't last and need to be done again. They tend to get more of them as time marches on. The owners of these modified mics ask to have the original capsule put back in. Don't flame me, I only read this from reputable sources. I have no opinion on this as I don't own a SP modified mic.
 
Hard2Hear said:
Frankly every SP mic I have ever heard sounds better than the SHITTY TLM Neumann mics. I used to think the TLM mics would be cool to own, until I used a couple on a project and they royally sucked. Then again, I have gotten to use an old U47 for vocals one time at a cool studio, and it beat every mic i have ever heard bar none. So I'd say the SP stuff is right up there with any other mics any pro studio uses...and BETTER than many Neumanns. Plus, the people at Neumann/Sennheiser are jerkwads and Alans always been a cool guy to anyone who had a legitimate question or a problem. As I have said before, to a professional artist or engineer that is worth its weight in gold.

Frankly, most people with a problem with SP or Alan don't work in the professional world of recording anyways (I said most, not every single one..geesh dont get your panties in a wad). I'll say it where Alan is polite and I'm not. You think you're such hot shit then show it! I'm sure Alan would give us a couple SP specific songs. Better yet, many of us on here can. Don't make me put some of my work on the Internet to make you look bad :).

Just lay off Alan. Geesh. Leave it alone already. If youre such hot shit go sell a million records then come back and throw it in my face. Go ahead.:) But I know...if some of you didn't bitch about everything you'd wither up and die.

I agree with tree- life is too short...go make some music.

H2H
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No need to trash the TLM103 mics. I find them great but they really need the high bucks pre-amps to tame them. They are a very high output mic with the lowest self-noise of any mic out there reguardless of price. I don't own any SP mics, so I have no opinion, but so many others seem to like them that I would have faith in owning one.
 
Marik said:
Sdelsolray,

You, as probably many other members of this group, payed attention that I always stay out the wars--I have much more interesting things to do... microphones for example. But at this point I feel things are going way over the top.

Just out of curiosity, where did you get the idea that Alan (or at least one other person in his company) does not have as much knowledge about microphones as the staff at Audio Technica, Blue, Josephson, Neumann, Oktava, ADK, Schoeps, AKG, DPA, Microtech Gefell, AEA, Korby, Rode, Telefunken USA, Lawson, Soundelux, Shure or numerous other mic companies????

Have you ever talked to Alan (or another person in his company) on technical issues of building microphones??? Have they ever showed themselves unprofessional in these discussions??? Or is it one of numerous assumptions, so popular here???
Oh yeah, you are questioning their knowledge because YOU KNOW how to design microphones, so let's start technical discussion. Please tell me which aspects of SP design let you think that Alan or his staff don't know their shit? Please attach schematics, so we could have it in front of our eyes while bashing PMI guys. Or even better, you could present your own design, so you could challenge Alan and show what the real pro means.

I will go on and tell you more--- many of Neumann, Gefell etc. mics are POORLY DESIGNED. If you know something about microphone designes, you will know what I am talking about. If you just need confirmation--ask Klaus Heyne.

You know, mediocrity never admits itself as such, but seeks to throw durt into someone who actually knows something. And it is so easy to do it over internet. Some folks here go on to say even to Harvey "f*ck you" and probably are very proud of it (at least I never seen apologies).

C'mon guys, what are we doing here? where are we going? Are we talking about music and how to record it, or just find somebody knowledgable to throw durt, to please our ego??? Why wouldn't we remember that Alan is a human being? Imagine yourself in his skin getting THAT MUCH shit, as he gets here.
Oh yeah... I forgot.... you guys are angels with no sins, and know a lot.
That's right--pick up stones and throw them into Alan! GET HIM!!!
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These mics may be poorly designed, but all the studios in the world use them to record. Right, wrong or indifferent, the mics are used all the time on thousands of pro recordings and I don't see many pros that debate the design of the high end mics. Pros are busy recording and not on the BBSs slagging the latest mic-of-the-week. I own many high end mics and never had a problem with any of them.
 
I was going to post some quotes from other mic makers showing their brand of puffery, but I decided against it. No amount of info is going to persuade people pro or con regrading Alan. I'm just going to go to other places where people at least have legitimate things to talk about. I can't tell you the number of times that I've seen posts where a Homerecer affirmatively goes to PMI or SP's website... seeking out info taken way out of context only to post said info and makes an inflammatory post about it. IMO, it's distasteful, disingenuous, and rather small minded.

It's one thing if folks were attacking Alan over stuff he did or said on this site. But the height of ridiculousness is that folks are going out looking for dirt to "enlighten" us with it. Mind you, NO ONE is going out looking for ridiculousness to post about Neumann, AKG or the like... OR even stuff from Behringer, SE, ADK, MXL or any of the many budget mic companies. I'm not trying to shut folks up. Go on, keep talking; it's your world and your right. But I, for one, find it strange that what PMI posts on their websites is so commonly a target... as opposed to what Alan 'says' on this site.
 
I read the 'about us' section of the SP website. Not sure why they give so much free press to other mic companies; beyond the Germans, they have implied references to Shure, Rode, and all of SP's Asian competitors. So I went to Shure's site and read the same page; Shure makes it sound like there aren't any other mic companies in the world. That's better marketing from my point of view.

But then I've been selling Shures and buying Beyers . . . hey, that's alliterative!
 
Rev E said:
... seeking out info taken way out of context only to post said info and makes an inflammatory post about it. IMO, it's distasteful, disingenuous, and rather small minded.
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I was holding out hope that the DJL would turn over a new leaf but it's the same old juvenile crap.

I've come to realize that he has zero credibility.
 
acorec said:
No need to trash the TLM103 mics. I find them great but they really need the high bucks pre-amps to tame them. They are a very high output mic with the lowest self-noise of any mic out there reguardless of price. I don't own any SP mics, so I have no opinion, but so many others seem to like them that I would have faith in owning one.
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I guess the cheap Focusrite Red7, ISA110, and Amek pres I use werent good enough for them. :D Not just the 103, but I tried the 193 as well and tossed the tracks.

H2H
 
Phyl said:
I was holding out hope that the DJL would turn over a new leaf but it's the same old juvenile crap.

I've come to realize that he has zero credibility.
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The simplest is to ask for examples of his work. Nothing like putting your money where your mouth is.

H2H
 
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