BTW; the AKG 112 is such a dated industry standard. They may be better than the 'toy' kick drum mics but aside from that they are terrible; save your money until you can afford either of the Shure's or at least get a Sen 602 instead of the AKG. You have to put so much work into EQ'ing a 112; very little low end or clarity (and yeah I do know where to place a mic before you defend it; just my opinion)