akg c 1000 s bathroom

[daveblue222]

okay i plan to buy the c 1000 s cardioid condenser microphone. i aim to use it in my bathroom in conjunction with my boss br 532, however i would rather use a firewire or usb mixer ( this is the main reason for buying this mic as i needed to get a battery powered condenser rather than using power from a mixer ect which the br 532 does not have)

i am not aiming to have the best quality sound but rather a more raw, and amateurish vibe. what i want to know is will this pick up my voice and guitar as one track (if setup correctly), rather than recording them seprately, if so has anyone got any tips for this type of recording.

why doesnt anybody record in their bathrooms anymore?, ihavent tried it yet but im sure it would sound great



-cheers

 

[Big Kenny]

Can't think of a worse idea. Good luck.....

 

[dkelley]

hey man, try it, see what happens, might be a good vibe. been done, once in a blue moon something like that turns out really well...

c1000, just curious why you'd choose that particular model? not great for vocals, although can be pretty good for guitar.

don't honestly really understand the rest of your question about recording both at once, unless you mean "will i be able to pickup voice and guitar at once ok with one mic and have it sound ok?" in which case I think you need to try it and see. I think if I were you I'd buy a cad m179 which has multiple variable pattern pickup so you can get more or less of the bathroom "vibe" in your recording and can also get a wider or narrower pattern to get both voice and guitar at the same time while still avoiding some of the rear room sound (although I expect it'll be all around room sound so you're gonna get bathroom vibe if you want it or not).

might sound good, but a pencil cardoid mic wouldn't be my obvious choice, but it might sound great like that.

how bout you try it and tell us?

Cheers,
Don

 

[kid klash]

If your bathroom is like mine, you'll get a vintage-sounding reverb vibe when recording your vocal and guitar at the same time in that somewhat reflective environment. Digital (hardware and software) reverbs are plentiful and fairly inexpensive these days, which is probably one of the reasons people aren't recording in their bathrooms very much any more.

Anyway, if you take the time to balance the volume of your guitar wit h the volume of your voice, you should be able to record both of them together, at the same time, in your bathroom.

Good luck!

 

[zed32]

okay i plan to buy the c 1000 s cardioid condenser microphone. i aim to use it in my bathroom in conjunction with my boss br 532, however i would rather use a firewire or usb mixer ( this is the main reason for buying this mic as i needed to get a battery powered condenser rather than using power from a mixer ect which the br 532 does not have)

i am not aiming to have the best quality sound but rather a more raw, and amateurish vibe. what i want to know is will this pick up my voice and guitar as one track (if setup correctly), rather than recording them seprately, if so has anyone got any tips for this type of recording.

why doesnt anybody record in their bathrooms anymore?, ihavent tried it yet but im sure it would sound great



-cheers

Well, if you're dead-set on having it sound like ass, then this would be the perfect setup!

 

[daveblue222]

when i meant by "at the same time" i mean playing and singing whilst the single microphone hopefully pics up everything and records everything onto a single channel. the reason i am choosing that specific model is beacause my multirtack hasnt got phanton power whereas that microphone (c1000) has a 9v battery option. otherwise i would opt for an omni pickup microphone if i had a mixer that supports phantom.

it ceases to amaze me why alot of people would think this is a bad idea, everyone seems to strive for perfectness nowadays. i have always thought that records which sound live are the best, maybe thats me being naive.


anyways any more advice would be great


thanks

 

[Big Kenny]

I panned the idea cuz i hate the mic. YMMV. Also I prefer to add verb to taste, you will have no control. Steven Tyler used the potty for some vox stuff and it turned out fine.

 

[zed32]

it ceases to amaze me why alot of people would think this is a bad idea, everyone seems to strive for perfectness nowadays. i have always thought that records which sound live are the best, maybe thats me being naive.


anyways any more advice would be great


thanks

There has to be some other options for battery powered condensers out there. I don't think that anything would sound worth a shit through that microphone, especially if a vocal is involved. I'm not trying to knock your methods, but it's just going to end up sounding bad. If I were you, I'd try looking into other microphone options before settling for the C1000S. Research a bit and see if there's anything out there that's a large diaphragm condenser that will run on battery power. I've never looked into it myself, so I can't help you with any specific models, but there has to be something better out there. And why the bathroom? It's not going to add anything beneficial to your sound. If you really want a natural, live sound, I would find the largest room in the house and just record it in there with a stereo pair of LDCs as room mics. If you really want some more reverb, try the garage. At least it's bigger and gives the reflections more time to develop instead of just being bounced back right away and creating a bunch of mud. Try and find a LDC with battery power, then pick a bigger room and record with the mic spaced farther back.

 

[weezerman2002]

If I were you I would record the guitar all by itself, and then lay the vocals on a seperate track this will allow you some room to play with the tracks individually. You are laying down a really killer performance of the guitar, and you kind of botch the vocals, now you dont have to scrap the whole track. Take it one step at a time. I have 2 c1000s mics, and have had sucess using them as drum overheads. If I were you I would buy a cheap external mic pre, you would only need on channel if you record the tracks individually. Im sure your bathroom has a power outlet, so this shouldnt be a problem. Maybe get a mic that wont pickup complete chaos in the bathroom, just the verb you want, and go from there.
Cheers
Jeremy

 

[daveblue222]

nah ive looked for a battery powered large diaphram omni but cant fins any. i think i may have to reconsider the boss br 532 as my medium and perhaps invest in a usb or firewire mixer which can handle phanton power and more than one mic at once.


thanks for ur advice

 

[zed32]

nah ive looked for a battery powered large diaphram omni but cant fins any. i think i may have to reconsider the boss br 532 as my medium and perhaps invest in a usb or firewire mixer which can handle phanton power and more than one mic at once.


thanks for ur advice

Here's another option. Buy an external phantom power supply such as this one, then you can use whatever LDC you want. Instead of spending $200 on an otherwise useless mic just because it has a battery option, you can spend $20-30 on a phantom power supply and be open to a much wider variety of LDCs in the $150 range. It would definitely be worth looking into.

 

[pezking]

The Sony C48 is a large diaphragm condenser which can be battery powered - won't be cheap though

Any AKG mic which requires phantom power can work down to 9v due to its unique oscillator/transformer set up. In theory you could build a small power supply to run off a 9v battery, although I think the cheap pre-amp/phantom supply may be a better idea.

The "mix" of reverberant to dry sound can be controlled with careful mic placement - however it of course will be very difficult to get this balance correct, as well as the balance between vocals and guitar.

I don't think it's fair to say it'll sound like crap just based on the method as described. It certainly won't be easy - but to say it'll sound balls is going a bit far.

I wish you the best of luck daveblue222 and I hope you post the results of your recording(s) on the thread!

 

[Nick98338]

Rode NT3... can be powered by battery, but is hypercardioid pattern

 

[daveblue222]

ill think ill do just that Birthdayboy. i will eventually get a small mixer of some kind (do most mixers now have phantom?). ill post the trackxs on here when im done, dont know how long itll take to get everthing sorted but i will. the mic i was thinking of getting if i also got the phantom power supply was the samson c03 mainly due to cost and that fact that its an omni, but it also has some good reviews, any ideas?


thanks again for all your advice

 

[Big Kenny]

Do you have a budget?
I'd like to see ya get a CAD M179 and a Rane ms1B or audio buddy or one of those nice little preamps that get mentioned so often

 

[weezerman2002]

I personally like the sounds I can get from the c1000s. I know people on this site talk crap about them, but the same people will tell you that the Shure SM57 sounds great on everything.

 

[Big Kenny]

I personally like the sounds I can get from the c1000s. I know people on this site talk crap about them, but the same people will tell you that the Shure SM57 sounds great on everything.

Nope, don't care for that either...

 

[montigeau]

I use the C1000s for drum overheads and they do fine picking up cymbals, crash, etc. I doubt that one c1000s is going to pick up acoustic guitar and vocals at the same time.

I tried the C1000s before for acoustic guitar only, and I didn't have the best results with it.

But who knows, maybe it will. And if you have to drop a deuce while recording, you could kill two birds with one stone.

 

[Robert D]

Finally, someone is placing a C-1000 where it belongs.......in the crapper!

All joking aside, I'm thinking that mic and a bright reflective room like most bathrooms may be a really bad combo.
Good luck, and keep experimenting. Experimentation should always be encouraged, but you should always be honest with yourself about the results and willing to say "that was a bad idea, let's try something else".

 

[zed32]

ill think ill do just that Birthdayboy. i will eventually get a small mixer of some kind (do most mixers now have phantom?). ill post the trackxs on here when im done, dont know how long itll take to get everthing sorted but i will. the mic i was thinking of getting if i also got the phantom power supply was the samson c03 mainly due to cost and that fact that its an omni, but it also has some good reviews, any ideas?


thanks again for all your advice

What the hell is a samson? Whatever it is, stay away! That CAD mic is not a bad suggestion for the money. Even a MXL V67g or teh Studio Projects B1 would probably be a better choice than Samson. You don't really need it to be omni. If you want to pick up more room, just play around with the mic placement.