ahhhh...drums

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Keith,


3 e604 on toms
1 e604 on kick
1- B1 1 inch in front of snare 'looking' between the legs
1- B3 omni/fig 8 1 feet over drummers head
1- SM 58 under snare flipped out of phase

1 sm58 leftover
you can mic the hihat, but mostly you don't need it

or

3 e604 on toms
1 e604/sm58 on kick
1- B3 fig. 8 between hihat and snare, you might need a windscreen
1- B1 1 feet over drummers head towards the floortom side
1- e604/SM 58 under snare flipped out of phase

again 1 left over

or

2 sm58 on racktoms
1 e604 on kick
1 e604 on floortom
2 e604 snare under /up
b1 and b3 spaced overhead b3 should be set in cardoid

as you can see there are a lot of options, and there a lot more.
you can even make a great recording with 3 mic's (kick and 2 right placed overheads)


Good luck,

Remco

ps. don't forget the 3:1 rule, realy importanton with multi miced instruments
 
haven't done a new recording yet, but I am practicing the eq and stuff...am I making progress? After I did the mix down, I put the bbe sonic maximizer on it
 
terrible_buddhi said:
haven't done a new recording yet, but I am practicing the eq and stuff...am I making progress? After I did the mix down, I put the bbe sonic maximizer on it
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If you're doing the tracking and mixing properly, you shouldn't need a "sonic maximizer..."
 
eq - wise it sounds a bit better, but it sounds still mono-ish( to my taste) and unbalanced volume wise especialy the hihatt /cym.
way to loud (again to my taste).

remco
 
Love the BBE. Use it on not only drums, but the over all mix. I even have one on my home theater. ...And it doesn't mean you don't have the eq right.
 
Toker41 said:
...And it doesn't mean you don't have the eq right.
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Absolutely it does... if you need sweetening on everything, then there's something definitely wrong with your monitoring/playback system.
 
I beg to differ...
The sonic Maximizer is an inhancer...not a fix all. I've seen it used in many a pro studio, and I'm willing to bet it's used on 90% of the CDs in you listen to. That's like saying that Mastering isn't needed if you set your EQ right. NFL films studio has a rack full of them.
However, I am willing to go as far as to say...if your equipment leaves a little to be disired, than it can can be used to make up for what you just don't have, but to say it is only used when the EQ is not right is just wrong.
So, and please keep in mind that this is a friendly rap...not an arguement....what is your opinion of THX?
 
If something is well-recorded, why does it need "enhancing"? :confused:

That's kinda like saying "...this cake is already sweet enough, but it would be even better with MORE frosting!" :eek: :eek:

The truth is, however, they ARE used often for rescue operations and that's why you see them in pro facilities. I have several myself.

But to use it as a permanent part of the mix buss for ALL tracks is, IMO, a misuse of that particular tool.
 
Damn, just read my last post...wish these BBS had spellcheck! hehe.
Anyway, back to the topic. Adding one to the V-drums should really help alot. Sometimes, you just can't get the right EQ out of some gear (or tracks) because it's just not there to start. So if that is what you are mean by "rescue" then we are on the same page.
Still, going by what you are saying, if you mix and EQ everything "right", then it shouldn't need to be mastered? "enhance" does not mean make something good out of something bad.
 
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bear-dude...you know that the BBE sonic maximizer isn't an enhancer, right?

i mean, it's function is to correct envelope distortion, or time-smear. put the top-end back into proper perspective with the other elements of the complex waveform.

the higher the frequency the greater the impedance...the sonic maximizer delays the lower end elements very slightly to correct for this. it makes a heckuva diff, IMHO.

even the best, most acurrate mixes get "fixed".
 
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