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[Richard Monroe]

I guess I'm ambivalent. On the one hand, it's no secret that I've got a lot of time, work, and money tied up in a commercial project, and it will require sales to come close to breaking even. On the other hand, I'm not some one post spammer who exists here for the purpose of networking my upcoming release.
My current project wouldn't be possible without the free information that a whole lot of people here have typed in, and I have done plenty of that, too, trying to explain vocal mics, cheap preamps and compressors to clueless newbies because I actually give a shit whether they learn this craft.
Frankly, when the finished product becomes available (about Christmas), you can bet I'll make one, and only one, post letting y'all know it's done, and hoping a few of you will buy it, because it was the best I could do, and it will be a good CD. Then I will go right back to helping clueless newbies and flaming people who run commercial recording studios with neither the gear nor the experience to provide fair market value.
The dues described above, I *have* paid them, and we know who we are. Yeah, somebody will flame me for spamming, and they have every right to that opinion. Personally, if you are an asset to this board, or just a member of the family, I'm interested in your commercial work. I actually own some classic Shakey Tee!
I just don't know how independant recording artists are supposed to survive when we're so paranoid about spamming that we can't even sell our priducts to each other. I know a clueless spamming newbie on a commercial mission when I see one, and if they show up here, we'll flame them dutifully. They can already do that, ala "horny girl want you bad". I think a regular here should be able to announce a release here, just like they would announce a new baby. So if y'all can't handle it, please send me a PM and try to sell me your album. I buy over 300 CD's a year, and there's no reason yours couldn't be one of them. And Crawdad- will you please make an album already? I'm dying to buy it.-Richie

 

[dachay2tnr]

I say change your name to Dave Baker. Apparently it has been ruled that it is OK to spam the clinic if you have that name.

Maybe Bave Darker would work too. Dunno.

 

[M.Brane]

spam



1. <messaging> (From Hormel's Spiced Ham, via the Monty Python
"Spam" song) To post irrelevant or inappropriate messages to
one or more Usenet newsgroups, mailing lists, or other
messaging system in deliberate or accidental violation of
netiquette.

It is possible to spam a newsgroup with one well- (or ill-)
planned message, e.g. asking "What do you think of abortion?"
on soc.women. This can be done by cross-posting, e.g. any
message which is crossposted to alt.rush-limbaugh and
alt.politics.homosexuality will almost inevitably spam both
groups. (Compare troll and flame bait).

Posting a message to a significant proportion of all
newsgroups is a sure way to spam Usenet and become an object
of almost universal hatred. Canter and Siegel spammed the net
with their Green card post.

If you see an article which you think is a deliberate spam, DO
NOT post a follow-up - doing so will only contribute to the
general annoyance. Send a polite message to the poster by
private e-mail and CC it to "postmaster" at the same address.
Bear in mind that the posting's origin might have been forged
or the apparent sender's account might have been used by
someone else without his permission.

The word was coined as the winning entry in a 1937 competition
to choose a name for Hormel Foods Corporation's "spiced meat"
(now officially known as "SPAM luncheon meat"). Correspondant
Bob White claims the modern use of the term predates Monty
Python by at least ten years. He cites an editor for the
Dallas Times Herald describing Public Relations as "throwing a
can of spam into an electric fan just to see if any of it
would stick to the unwary passersby."

Usenet newsgroup: news:news.admin.net-abuse.

See also netiquette.

2. (A narrowing of sense 1, above) To indiscrimately send
large amounts of unsolicited e-mail meant to promote a
product or service. Spam in this sense is sort of like the
electronic equivalent of junk mail sent to "Occupant".

In the 1990s, with the rise in commercial awareness of the
net, there are actually scumbags who offer spamming as a
"service" to companies wishing to advertise on the net. They
do this by mailing to collections of e-mail addresses,
Usenet news, or mailing lists. Such practises have caused
outrage and aggressive reaction by many net users against the
individuals concerned.

3. (Apparently a generalisation of sense 2, above) To abuse
any network service or tool by for promotional purposes.

"AltaVista is an index, not a promotional tool. Attempts to
fill it with promotional material lower the value of the index
for everyone. [...] We will disallow URL submissions from
those who spam the index. In extreme cases, we will exclude
all their pages from the index." -- Altavista.

4. <jargon, programming> To crash a program by overrunning a
fixed-size buffer with excessively large input data.

See also buffer overflow, overrun screw, smash the stack.

5. <chat, games> (A narrowing of sense 1, above) To flood any
chat forum or Internet game with purposefully annoying
text or macros. Compare Scrolling.

(2001-05-17)


Source: The Free On-line Dictionary of Computing, © 1993-2003 Denis Howe


spam

vt.,vi.,n. [from "Monty Python's Flying Circus"] 1. To
crash a program by overrunning a fixed-size buffer with excessively
large input data. See also buffer overflow, overrun screw,
smash the stack. 2. To cause a newsgroup to be flooded with
irrelevant or inappropriate messages. You can spam a newsgroup with
as little as one well- (or ill-) planned message (e.g. asking "What
do you think of abortion?" on soc.women). This is often done with
cross-posting (e.g. any message which is crossposted to
alt.rush-limbaugh and alt.politics.homosexuality will almost
inevitably spam both groups). This overlaps with troll behavior;
the latter more specific term has become more common. 3. To send many
identical or nearly-identical messages separately to a large number
of Usenet newsgroups. This is more specifically called `ECP',
Excessive Cross-Posting. This is one sure way to infuriate nearly
everyone on the Net. See also velveeta and jello. 4. To bombard
a newsgroup with multiple copies of a message. This is more
specifically called `EMP', Excessive Multi-Posting. 5. To
mass-mail unrequested identical or nearly-identical email messages,
particularly those containing advertising. Especially used when the
mail addresses have been culled from network traffic or databases
without the consent of the recipients. Synonyms include UCE,
UBE. 6. Any large, annoying, quantity of output. For instance,
someone on IRC who walks away from their screen and comes back to
find 200 lines of text might say "Oh no, spam".

The later definitions have become much more prevalent as the
Internet has opened up to non-techies, and to most people senses 3 4
and 5 are now primary. All three behaviors are considered abuse of
the net, and are almost universally grounds for termination of the
originator's email account or network connection. In these senses
the term `spam' has gone mainstream, though without its original
sense or folkloric freight - there is apparently a widespread myth
among lusers that "spamming" is what happens when you dump cans of
Spam into a revolving fan.