About to buy a RUMOUR for its converters. Can 2 tie into a 002 somehow?

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I do mostly 2 track guitar/vox recordings and I am about to purchase the Kurzweil Rumour for the conversion only.

Does anyone know if 2 Rumours can tie into the 002? At times I may want to use 4 converters and the R is limited to 2. I do not want to use the 002's converters if possible.

If not, is anyone making a low cost high quality 4 pack of converters? I never go past 44.1.
 
I don't know about a 4-pack but you could look at a RME ADI-8 Pro for 8 nice converters (A/D and D/A) that you can connect to the 002 via ADAT optical.
 
Probably a nice iece but way overkill for me. I only need 2 converters and possibly at time would use 4 but not necessarily. I heard some great things about the Rumour so I'm figuring 2 great converters would be better than 8 okay ones and the price is right like about $500. I'd go as high as 1k though of there is somethings far better.
 
With the Digi 002 you only get two options as far as unsing digital converters: one SPDIF two channels or one ADAT eight channels. So four is not really an option on the Digi 002, unless you are willing to let six of the ADAT input channels go unused. In other words, you need an ADAT format converter box to get more than two channels of outboard conversion.

As far as two channel AD conversion, I think the Mytek 96k converter is under $1,000.

The advantage to the Rumour is that you also get a great fx box, which you can use for reverb when mixing. That alone is a great reason to go with it for your setup.
 
I did consider both the Mytek and the Mini Me but that only takes care of the front end (A/D). I would like the backend too (D/A) so that's where the Rumour came into play. I'll probably go for that unless someone can convince me otherwise. Anyone?
 
johnbono said:
I did consider both the Mytek and the Mini Me but that only takes care of the front end (A/D). I would like the backend too (D/A) so that's where the Rumour came into play. I'll probably go for that unless someone can convince me otherwise. Anyone?
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The Rumour will not allow you to run AD signals simultaneously with DA signals. Also, how did you come to believe that the converters in the Rumour are better than those in the RME ADI-8 Pro? The specs aren't as good, but that doesn;t tell everything.
 
I never really would need A/D and D/A consecutively. It's not that the RME is a bad piece I just don't need or ever will need 8/8.
 
While we're on the subject, does anyone know of any other good converters that haven't been mentioned running for well under the area of $1,000?

That RME is interesting, but my current interface only has SPDIF. Is there ANYTHING that would go well with that? It seems to me that there is the M-Audio Flying Cow and some ART thing in the $200 area, then it skips straight up to the $1,000+ realm. :eek:
 
The ART is more like $140-150 street prices. It's actually quite good for the money. There's better out there, but not for anywhere near the money. Also, I upgraded mine by purchasing a bigger power supply for it, and that improved the sound a bit as well.

There's the Lucid in the $750-ish range I believe?
 
OneArmedScissor said:
While we're on the subject, does anyone know of any other good converters that haven't been mentioned running for well under the area of $1,000?

That RME is interesting, but my current interface only has SPDIF. Is there ANYTHING that would go well with that? It seems to me that there is the M-Audio Flying Cow and some ART thing in the $200 area, then it skips straight up to the $1,000+ realm. :eek:
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OneArmedScissor, the Rumor has two channels of excellent ADA conversion with SPDIF for $500.
 
Yep! That's why I'm going for it. It's too bad that 2 can't be linked for 4 channels but that's the way it goes! ;)
 
Yeah, but you see, I find it freaking weird that there's just a $500 effects processor for converters in that range. I guess there's not really a market for that stuff? Either that, or no one has taken advantage of it.

It makes absolutely zero sense. It would seem like the Flying Cow should have the conversion capabilities of the Rumour/Mangler considering that it is half the price for just conversion, but I don't believe it does. That thing seems kind of dated. It's like they always forget to drop the price when they go through all their old computer stuff and lower it lol.

Hey, can someone explain something to me real quick? When a converter mentions that it has 128X oversampling, what does that mean? Pretty much all add on type converters seem to mention it, like the ART DIO, the Flying Cow, the Rumour/Mangler, and on up from there. That is the only thing different I ever see mentioned with stuff like that compared to the conversion specs on interfaces with stock converters.

I just looked again, and it would appear that almost no one is selling the ART DIO, and very few the M-Audio Flying Cow. Maybe they were discontinued? Both of them do seem very similar...

I also found THIS for $380. Anyone ever heard of it or had experience with it?
 
Your link is broken. As for the Rumour, it is a great ad/da. I only just recently found a comparable device with more channels. I bought the RME Fireface. Very happy with it, but for 2 channels the Rumour rocks.
 
good luck finding a rumour... they're backordered everywhere
 
So with the Rumour could you record through its two spdif ins and through the 8 ins on a digi002 all at the same time or does it has to be used on its own, recording through only the two spdif channels at one time? Also could you use the digi 002's channels, the two spdif rumour channels, and 8 adat channels simultaneously to record? Please someone clear this up for me, I'm confused...
 
First, SPDIF is s two channel format. So one SPDIF jack handles two channels of audio. The Rumour has one SPDIF input, which handles two channels of audio.

And yes, you can use all 18 of the 002's inputs simultaneously.
 
OneArmedScissor said:
Yeah, but you see, I find it freaking weird that there's just a $500 effects processor for converters in that range. I guess there's not really a market for that stuff? Either that, or no one has taken advantage of it.
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I think what you are missing is this: every digital effects unit needs a set of convertors to get analog in/out. There are, in theory, no differences between these convertors and what you would get in a standlone unit.

Kurzweil has been making top of this line pro heyboards for a very long time that have these quality convertors. Their move into the digital effects markety has been really recent, and, in line with their previous history of quality, the convertors in their outboard effects units are also thusly top of the line.

A lot of people are turning on to them, you would do well to check them out.
They are not a well-kept secret, it's just that they are nw to market.
 
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