A question for PRO's only.

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Whatever theory may say, delay panning works, and works quite well. You can even put a short delay on the primary side, and then move things back and forth. I can assure you, it works. I use it frequently, and I am very fond of it. It is not great if things must sum to mono well, but as I no longer do radio and TV work, I no longer care that much. Try it, you will see that it does work.

Light

"Cowards can never be moral."
M.K. Gandhi
 
Light your theory of using delay I found to be quite useful but I have a question about recording ur drum tracks in mono....Wouldn't ur drum track loose some of it's overall quality as if it were in stereo?....I'm up for trying new things but I have always recorded my drum tracks in stereo could you explain this technique to me if at all possible?
 
ThunderMaker said:
Wouldn't ur drum track loose some of it's overall quality as if it were in stereo?
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Stereo tracks are not necessarily better, just stereo. If you can find a mic position which captures everything, you’re set. When I do this, I usually record the drums with one large diaphragm condenser, preferably an omni, and I place just above and just in front of the drummers head. This only works if the drummer is comfortable, but I try to get as close as I can without the mic getting hit. I have used mostly U87’s for this, but whatever you have will work. I like this most for jazz and softer rock stuff. If you can find the right mic position, which is not to difficult, you get by with few if any other mics. I will also do this on louder rock stuff, but I generally need other mics (mostly room mics, with a kick and snare from time to time, and very rarely tom mics). The real trick is where you pan everything. I almost never pan any of the drums right down the middle. I like to create a more complex image than the standard image you get. It never seams right to have it sound like I am sitting in the middle of the drum set, and inside the piano. Drums do not need 10-12 mics, though I will certainly use them if that is the sound my client wants.

The panning of instruments should be a more creative task than many people make it. There should be no rules. I do not believe in "Kick in the middle, snare in the middle, guitar at three o'clock...etc." If the song is best served by having the vocals down the center (as it usually is) than I put them in the middle. Sometimes, the vocal wants to be off center, or even hard panned to one side. If it sounds good, and right (not always the same thing) then I will do it.

Light

"Cowards can never be moral."
M.K. Gandhi
 
Light Thank you for taking the time explaining that to me I never thought about the sound spectrum like that before. This has helped me out alot with my panning . I can get a better sound and adjust it more this way. I can actually create more of a suround stero sound with this technique. many thanks....

Animal
 
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Just to make sure that some initial confusion has been cleared:

axeshredder said:
they get lower (volume) on one side and louder on the other to sound like its in the 3 o'clock position..this is not good!
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That is what panning is. It's not a question of "good" or "bad". If you want to pan it, it *will* be louder on one side and lower on the other side.
 
Re: Re: A question for PRO's only.

regebro said:
Just to make sure that some initial confusion has been cleared:



That is what panning is. It's not a question of "good" or "bad". If you want to pan it, it *will* be louder on one side and lower on the other side.
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Damn! Now why didn't I think of that?
 
LittleDog we never really think of the basic things till the last min(laughing) I'm guilty of this too much work I think
 
Do a search for "Haas effect" on your favorite search engine. Tons of info on this subject.
 
masteringhouse said:
Do a search for "Haas effect" on your favorite search engine. Tons of info on this subject.
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Thanks, masteringhouse. It has been so long since my acoustics class I had forgoten the name, though I obviously remembered the effect, and how to use it.

Light

"Cowards can never be moral."
M.K. Gandhi
 
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