A pop tune, or 2 or 3

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Well,

Here are some pop tunes I've written with my co-writer and vocalist, Mindy...

We go completely different directions with each tune, so each one of these has a totally different character...

She's doing all vocal work, lyric writing on these, and I'm playing or programming all of the instruments, and engineering...

All are MP3 Downloads:

Get It Together-Acoustic Rock

If You Lose Your Way-Ethereal Pop

Your Eyes-Acoustic Ballad

Fire Inside-Dance

Peace,

Scott Jones
 
I Listened to "Get it together"

Great songwriting... this song could easily be on the radio...

Im not much of a fan of the vocal sound... I can hear that you used a decent pre, it's just the eq or processing that makes it sound boxy....

Guitar sound is great.. Drums and bass are great.. mix is good.... Other than the vocals, I can't find anything to complain about...

And, thats good.... Cause, Naturally Im a complainer... (so my wife says)..:D
 
I think the percussion needs to come up -- when they pick up around 1:40, they sound laser-like, which don't seem to mesh with the rest of the sounds.

Great swirling vocals and a very catchy chorus.
 
Song "Get-it Together".......

Decent song, personally am not a huge fan with the acoustic guitar sound, just sounds too over processed.

About the lyrics man, chorus has WAY TOO MANY "Do's". Kind of takes away from the whole song. My brother was listening and just started laughing when the chorus came on.
 
I liked Get It Together. The break around 2:38 was pretty cool sounding - nice wide stereo effect. I didn't really care for the snare in the first part of the song with the flange or phaser effect on it. I thought it sounded better in the second half without the effect. I also liked the layered vocal effects at the end of the song! Nice work.
 
The meaning...

Nutdotnet said:
Song "Get-it Together".......

Decent song, personally am not a huge fan with the acoustic guitar sound, just sounds too over processed.

About the lyrics man, chorus has WAY TOO MANY "Do's". Kind of takes away from the whole song. My brother was listening and just started laughing when the chorus came on.
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Nutdotnet,

Thanks...

This might help you understand the lyric's origin...

The lyric is based on a reflection Paul had in the book of Romans in the Bible:

ROMANS 7:15 "I do not understand what I do. For what I want to do I do not do, but what I hate I do..."

It's more about the struggle to do the right thing, when clearly, the wrong thing is often the easy, and more quickly satisfying choice...and the desire to do right, falls prey to our weaker nature to self-gratification...

A little more than just, "too many do's"...

Sometimes reading between the lines can be rewarding...

And most of the time, I NEVER process the acoustic guitar beyond a little 'verb...in this case I favored it...

The fact that you would make your point by disclosing your brother's response was a poor choice...

That's why they call it "constructive criticism"...which I welcome...and that was not...

Thank you for listening...your insights were revealing...

Peace and all the best,

Scott
 
get it together...

great singing matched with equally good production. A little muffled sounding, maybe, recording wise....Good job...I'll have to listen to the others. for some reason with my cable hookup, the download was taking quite awhile to stream...maybe Fri. nite is the reason.
 
whoa....!!!!

fire inside....kicks butt...much better fidelity. great programming...and the percussion/bass sounds sound top notch. again, killer vocals too. egg salad!!!
 
Actually that was exactly what I WAS NOT doing. I didn't say that there was too many "Do's" simply because there was, I said that because it sounded odd. Like an average listener who hadn't read the bible or remember that exact verse may think the same thing as me.

Not trying to give you a hard time, because I don't really know what your goal with the song is. If it is just something gratifying (sp?) for you are for the person who wrote it then I say you have done your job. If you were trying to market it on the other hand, well........
 
Nutdotnet said:
If you were trying to market it on the other hand, well........
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It's statements like that...

"Well...."

...well what...?

You don't seem to get it...

I don't care if you like the song...or the guitar effect or the vocals or the lyrics...

It's your underlying juvenile sarcasm...

It's apparent by your reply, that you don't understand that constructive criticism does NOT include sarcasm and back-handed remarks...

Oh and I do more than have "fun" with music, it's what I've done for a living for 12 of 24 years I've been a musician...

I have no problem marketing my music...

Peace,

Scott
 
Haha.....don't get your whitey-tighteys all bunched up now man. Take a deep breath. I wasn't trying to piss you off by my statements. Some people can take criticsm (sp?), and well by the looks of it you cannot. Sometimes I am very honest and rather brute with my comments, I don't mean to upset anyone but I feel that the only way one is going to better themselves (and in this case your music) is to tell you how I "hear" it.

You bring the song to the MP3 Mixing Clinic, people here WILL make comments on what they think of the song. Trust me man, I have had much harsher criticsm than I gave you. I told you what I thought of the song. I like it, but like I said before I, as well as my brother who was in the room when it was playing, both felt that the chorus ruined the song. The "Do's" were very distracting. Others may not think the chorus is a problem, this forum is based on opinion. That is what makes it great.

I will be honest, if I was in the music business and heard that song there would be no way I would market it the way it is, I guess unless of course I was into Christian based music? I put the question mark there because I don't know if this is supposed to be a christian "rock" song or not. Myself not being a christian I cannot comment on whether this would make a good christian-rock tune.

My "well......." comment tried to imply what I had said above. Since I don't know what your goal with that song is I wasn't going to sound too harsh, but now considering the circumstances I will let you know what I think.

For what it's worth, I do apologize if I did upset you. My comments were not meant to be sarcastic, just honest.
 
Sjones....

I don't really want to jump in, but at the same time I feel a need to clarify things...

When you post things in the Clinic you have to be open for all crticism's

When Nutdotnet explained that his brother was laughing at all the do's in the song, he wasn't trying to belittle you, he was just telling you the truth...

Consider it to be valuable advice... If nutdotnet said that about one of my songs, I would thank him and go back and have a listen to my song and see if I hear what he's talking about...

If his Brother laughing, how many other people might be laughing... is what I would be thinking....if it were my song

I never even heard the song in question, so I won't comment on it... But when you post a song in the clinic, be prepared for the worst... you will then never be dissapointed..

Being defensive about stuff here might make the listeners nervous about critiqiueing any of your future songs out of fear that if they are honest you will jump on them...

Honesty is your best tool here in the clinic.. you need all the honesty you can get....

I hope this helps in some small way
Joe..
 
Peace...

Nutdotnet said:

For what it's worth, I do apologize if I did upset you. My comments were not meant to be sarcastic, just honest.
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Dude,

We're cool...

And for what it's worth, I can take critique and honesty just fine...but in the future, just consider that "brutal" honesty is not as constructive as honesty with diplomacy...

For the record, I am a Christian, and the Music Director/guitarist/arranger of my church, and I'm fortunate to be able to use the music I've been given every week for 5000 people...a huge responisibility, not without constructive critique, at times...

As well, I do studio work, commercials, and that environment is nothing BUT tweaking and fine tuning for the client or Ad agency...and the direction is not typically brutal, but helpful in achieve the end goal...

As far as the marketability of the song in the Christian world, I've heard nothing but good things about it, with lyric being one it's strongest points, mainly for it's reference in the Chorus to the scripture I referred to...so, it's a matter of perspective, I guess...

I do accept your apology, without reservation, I just wanted you to have some clarity on my position...

Now, let's move on...

Peace,

Scott
 
Re: Sjones....

VOXVENDOR said:
I don't really want to jump in, but at the same time I feel a need to clarify things...

Honesty is your best tool here in the clinic.. you need all the honesty you can get....

I hope this helps in some small way
Joe..
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Joe,

Thanks for your helpful insights...

No one need fear critiquing MY music, but critique need not have a sarcastic tone...that's all I'm saying...

Kindness over sarcasm...not for my "feelings", but for a better critiquing environment, so that others need not fear having THEIR music critiqued...

Moving on...

Peace,

Scott
 
Glad we can look over this little "squabble" ;)

But in the future you may want to think about this, sometimes it may be hard to actually tell the tone of the person's comments when it is in words, no voice to be able to tell if the person is being nice, rude, sarcastic, etc........

Like I said, I cannot comment on if it would be marketable in the Christian world, but by the sounds of it it is very marketable. Congratulations!
 
and...sjonesmusic..

If you have not already experienced this, I guarentee you will...in that doing Christian music, you AND your music will be slammed, ridiculed, put down, made fun of, told it's absolute garbage, etc., etc. Or...expect the highest praises. I am not suggesting that these posts went even near that point, but be prepared for other situations that have communication failures [and/or other situations] far worse than this recent one. I have done Christian music myself for a fair amount of time now, and the reactions having rarely been luke-warm. Either people hate it with a passion (and then maybe they even continue on and tell me how to live my life!!), or they just love it. I've had instances where a person was saved and got baptised due to my music, and also, heated debates have also come from nowhere...all from a song. Welcome to being a Christian.

Additionally...being "marketable in a Christian world" is a strange concept....isn't it..??..if you know what I mean.

I'd appreciate some of your time, if you would please, to listen to some of my worship music.....at:
http://www.mp3.com/theupperroom

God bless,
Chris
 
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