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James HE
a spoonfull weighs a ton
I've got something for you all. This is one from Learn. (that's the band)
http://www.mp3.com/learn_this
-jhe
http://www.mp3.com/learn_this
-jhe
David
New member
This white boy don't dance
But I sure as hell could to that! Is this your band james or a band you recorded? Whatever the case I like the sound I'm hearing here!!
But I sure as hell could to that! Is this your band james or a band you recorded? Whatever the case I like the sound I'm hearing here!!
Meshuggah
New member
Very good.. very good..
I'd love to hear this song with a little work put into a wider stereoimage. Maybe the drum could use some more high frequencies.
I know I shouldn't, but I've gots to just put in a little tiny comment on the songwriting. I think it would be really cool if there were some breaks in the song where the drums chill a bit and give some room for that sweet sounding guitar.. just my 2 öre.
Good playing, good singing, good song.
- Mesh
I'd love to hear this song with a little work put into a wider stereoimage. Maybe the drum could use some more high frequencies.
I know I shouldn't, but I've gots to just put in a little tiny comment on the songwriting. I think it would be really cool if there were some breaks in the song where the drums chill a bit and give some room for that sweet sounding guitar.. just my 2 öre.
Good playing, good singing, good song.
- Mesh
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James HE
a spoonfull weighs a ton
This isn't my Band. It's some locals I recorded.
Meshuggah, Glad you like the guitar sound. one of the guitar tracks, we split the signal to two amps using a Deluxe Memory Man. The direct to a Boss DD-3 delay to a 5150 (noisy bugger) the delayed to a Mesa DC-3. In the room, that combination was massive sounding.
-jhe
Meshuggah, Glad you like the guitar sound. one of the guitar tracks, we split the signal to two amps using a Deluxe Memory Man. The direct to a Boss DD-3 delay to a 5150 (noisy bugger) the delayed to a Mesa DC-3. In the room, that combination was massive sounding.
-jhe
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Emeric
New member
Very nice stuff James. A wider stereo image would be cool as Meshuggah stated. I'd like to hear the electrics panned more, as well as the acoustic. I like a lot of the sounds you have going on here, great vocal sounds, dig the drums except for maybe the kick in spots. I like the song a lot as well, good band. Great.
jitteringjim
Insert Custom Title Here
Good Work
I did a mono/stereo A/B with my system and agree that the stereo imaging could be wider. Did you sub-mix the drums? If so, you could push those up a bit more as well. Overall though, a great job. I've enjoyed looping this tune. Keep up the good work.
I did a mono/stereo A/B with my system and agree that the stereo imaging could be wider. Did you sub-mix the drums? If so, you could push those up a bit more as well. Overall though, a great job. I've enjoyed looping this tune. Keep up the good work.
Aaron Cheney
Favorite Chord: C 6/9
Hey James,
Nice production. The song, vox, and voc treatment reminded me a lot of Jars of Clay. I do have to agree with Meshugga that the drums were a little busy.
It's hard to really comment on the mix too much listening to a low fi stream through crappy speakers. I thought it all sounded very appropriate for the song, though. I agree also that you had a nice gtr tone happening.
Aaron
http://www.aaroncheney.com
Nice production. The song, vox, and voc treatment reminded me a lot of Jars of Clay. I do have to agree with Meshugga that the drums were a little busy.
It's hard to really comment on the mix too much listening to a low fi stream through crappy speakers. I thought it all sounded very appropriate for the song, though. I agree also that you had a nice gtr tone happening.
Aaron
http://www.aaroncheney.com
LI Slim
New member
I agree -- really nice; enjoyed listening. I might make the vocal just a tiny bit more prominent. And I'm harsher about the drummer -- he's playing beyond his ability and trying to add flourishes to everything (except he's a tad slow), when he should stick more to laying down the beat.
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pglewis
New member
I was hearing some sort of timing issue, and I think Slim nailed the source. Kick drum is hard to make out, too. One taste related thing: the acoustic seems a bit too bright for me. Are you just running straight from a pickup? If so, I usually like to add a mic'ed track to thicken it up some.
Good tune and a pretty good mix. It moves along nicely for a 6 minute song.
Good tune and a pretty good mix. It moves along nicely for a 6 minute song.
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F e e l e r
New member
Really cool song.... I can also hear the timing problem... sounds like the drums to me. Still a nice song. Nice job on the mix.
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Teddie
New member
James,
I'm digging this song... Tell those folks it's a good one they got...
About the mix:
The drums were talked about already... They sound muddy to me... especially the snare.
Actually, I almost feel like I'd like to hear a hi-freq boost on the whole song. What the hell is that thing called that folks use on the whole track to boost the brilliance? Exciter? Enhancer?
When the distorted guits came in they sounded over-saturated or something... a little overloaded beyond effected distortion, if that makes sense (?)
The imagry of this song was very cool... Sounded very complex as well. I did like it - definitely.
I'm digging this song... Tell those folks it's a good one they got...
About the mix:
The drums were talked about already... They sound muddy to me... especially the snare.
Actually, I almost feel like I'd like to hear a hi-freq boost on the whole song. What the hell is that thing called that folks use on the whole track to boost the brilliance? Exciter? Enhancer?
When the distorted guits came in they sounded over-saturated or something... a little overloaded beyond effected distortion, if that makes sense (?)
The imagry of this song was very cool... Sounded very complex as well. I did like it - definitely.
J
jamiecer
New member
Cool Song
Some very cool stuff going on in the mix. Very bohemian how everyone is doing their own thing yet keeping it together.
My only input would be the levels on the drums, they jump around from a very quiet kick, to a very present snare. They seem to need some level adjustment.
Otherwise, good job!
Some very cool stuff going on in the mix. Very bohemian how everyone is doing their own thing yet keeping it together.
My only input would be the levels on the drums, they jump around from a very quiet kick, to a very present snare. They seem to need some level adjustment.
Otherwise, good job!
J
James HE
a spoonfull weighs a ton
Thanks for all the comments guys!
a few things...
Teddie. yes! the guitars are very over saturated, that's what the guitarist likes so that's how it goes down. it was like "No I don't want to use your Mesa Boogie for that part, I'll use the BOSS Metal Zone with the gain on 42 through the Peavy 5150"... well, ok then...
as far as the many comments on the drums... recording and mixing that kit is pure hell! it like something you'd find at a garage sell for $40. There's some hardware missing, the toms just sort of sit on top of the kick drum, I had to put pillows under them so that the kick drum mic didn't hear "ca think tha.. fart"
When the drummer got here I made him replace his heads (er um ductape) with USED heads from my drummers kit. (which three months later are still on the kit!) some axle grease on the kick pedal (we got barrels of axle grease around the farm here...) He uses a wooden beater. (yikes!) he bought a new snare head for the occasion (yippie!) alas it was a think ass marching snare drum head, not a conventional match for his piccilo! I'm very surprised that head didn't warp the rim! that head was cranked down soo hard, the snares are tight as hell too (the release swith is broken) He has a little wrench between his top and bottom hi hat which rattles around when he hits it. (that's really cool actually, a nice special effect) the kit was rounded off with a $9 6" splash and 3/4 of what used to be a crash cymbal, and a china. I actually "re miced" the snare on this track, placing a speaker on a different snare drum and soloing the track with some heavy gating, a massive high pass filter, and then micing the bottom... after that i actually liked the snare sound. As bad as that kit really sounds, it goes along with the drummers style and fits the music (mostly)
The acoustic in the into is just a line in through a BOSS delay which was actually a "scratch" track, recorded at the same time as the drums. After that there is a miced acoustic track as was as a line in through the delay. LOTs and lots of guitar tracks.
The bass was a DI. the bass is kinda there. The bassist job is to play exactly what the guitars are doing and just add to the wall of sound. So I compressed the hell out of it, used a tape saturation plugin, actually boosted 80K and 250K, made it muddy and round and as "woomy" as possible. It's a little too woomy at the end during the guitar solo, but I almost kind of like that, like one note just booms out of the speakers from out of nowhere...
This band has a lot of killer songs, the guitarist/singer/songwriter is one gifted mofo. They have a bit of maturing to do, which they might do if they would turn down at their rehersals, I've tried telling them but still too loud! but man they've got something special there... and need for decent equipment.
-jhe
a few things...
Teddie. yes! the guitars are very over saturated, that's what the guitarist likes so that's how it goes down. it was like "No I don't want to use your Mesa Boogie for that part, I'll use the BOSS Metal Zone with the gain on 42 through the Peavy 5150"... well, ok then...
as far as the many comments on the drums... recording and mixing that kit is pure hell! it like something you'd find at a garage sell for $40. There's some hardware missing, the toms just sort of sit on top of the kick drum, I had to put pillows under them so that the kick drum mic didn't hear "ca think tha.. fart"
When the drummer got here I made him replace his heads (er um ductape) with USED heads from my drummers kit. (which three months later are still on the kit!) some axle grease on the kick pedal (we got barrels of axle grease around the farm here...
) He uses a wooden beater. (yikes!) he bought a new snare head for the occasion (yippie!) alas it was a think ass marching snare drum head, not a conventional match for his piccilo! I'm very surprised that head didn't warp the rim! that head was cranked down soo hard, the snares are tight as hell too (the release swith is broken) He has a little wrench between his top and bottom hi hat which rattles around when he hits it. (that's really cool actually, a nice special effect) the kit was rounded off with a $9 6" splash and 3/4 of what used to be a crash cymbal, and a china. I actually "re miced" the snare on this track, placing a speaker on a different snare drum and soloing the track with some heavy gating, a massive high pass filter, and then micing the bottom... after that i actually liked the snare sound. As bad as that kit really sounds, it goes along with the drummers style and fits the music (mostly)The acoustic in the into is just a line in through a BOSS delay which was actually a "scratch" track, recorded at the same time as the drums. After that there is a miced acoustic track as was as a line in through the delay. LOTs and lots of guitar tracks.
The bass was a DI. the bass is kinda there. The bassist job is to play exactly what the guitars are doing and just add to the wall of sound. So I compressed the hell out of it, used a tape saturation plugin, actually boosted 80K and 250K, made it muddy and round and as "woomy" as possible. It's a little too woomy at the end during the guitar solo, but I almost kind of like that, like one note just booms out of the speakers from out of nowhere...
This band has a lot of killer songs, the guitarist/singer/songwriter is one gifted mofo. They have a bit of maturing to do, which they might do if they would turn down at their rehersals, I've tried telling them but still too loud! but man they've got something special there... and need for decent equipment.
-jhe
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Emeric
New member
Something special for sure.
I love this song.
The drummer although may lose it the odd time... he's got it. Talented no question. Going beyond his ability, maybe.. but who cares, it drops time here and there.. but.. oh well.
Singer is awesome... Melodies so great.
Did I say I like this song? Good stuff, real rock music.
I love this song.
The drummer although may lose it the odd time... he's got it. Talented no question. Going beyond his ability, maybe.. but who cares, it drops time here and there.. but.. oh well.
Singer is awesome... Melodies so great.
Did I say I like this song? Good stuff, real rock music.