4033 againts a B1

[cominginsecond]

I don't exactly think the B1 is crap . . . but I do think the 4033 will spank it in to submission about 99% of the time.

Generally speaking, and not on all sources, obviously. But 99% sounds about right, though.

Is that detailed enough?

I suppose not. How about this? : In most cases, when comparing a cheap mic like the B1 to a good mic like the 4033, a chain of events happens in your brain's chemistry that causes the release of endorphines that we consciously interperate as a phenomenon called "better sound" coming out of a better mic like the 4033.

There is probably some truth to this. However, the 4033 retails for $300 and the B1 retails for $80. The B1 is an excellent, excellent value. DJL seems unable to grasp that.

 

[Harvey Gerst]

Is it of any interest to anybody that the 4033 has a small (5/8") diaphragm, while the B1 has a large (1") diaphragm? You're not really comparing mics of similar design.

Just a technical observation, since I don't own either mic.

 

[lend_me_talent]

I hate the f'in v67 as well chess so your not alone

 

[tdukex]

Is it of any interest to anybody that the 4033 has a small (5/8") diaphragm, while the B1 has a large (1") diaphragm? You're not really comparing mics of similar design.

Just a technical observation, since I don't own either mic.

Harvey, please don't interrupt a good flame war with objective, relevant facts about about the the two mics in question.

 

[Henri Devill]

Hate is a strong word.....I dislike the V67 also..and the C1 too!
So you are not really that alone..Diff strokes..difff folks



Don

 

[Henri Devill]

Harvey, please don't interrupt a good flame war with objective, relevant facts about about the the two mics in question.

Good one..LOL..So true



Don

 

[crazydoc]

Look, I figure any informed opinion is valuable.

I don't care if the guy's a lunatic or not. At least he's a lunatic with a lot of mics. And if 12 guys think a particular mic is brilliant, and he thinks it's crap, then I want to hear about it.

So DJ's got a lot of mics. That makes him an expert?

Well, I gotta lotta shit in my colon, so I guess that makes me a proctologist.

Wanna hear about that crap?

 

[Han]

Hear hear! at last somebody who hates the C1!!

I have had a C1 exactly one single day and though hate is a big word, I think it doesnt sound good at all, much too 'cold'.

I wonder why it costs 3 times as much as the better sounding B1?

Perhaps the B1 is a fluke?

 

[freshmattyp]

I think both this thread and the B1 is crap. The thread smells like SP spam and the B1 is a halfass mic that is kind of like a jack of all trades and a master of none... I'd put it in a LDC class next to the SDC AKG C1000S. Oh and I think freshmattyp and cominginsecond are pricks, but this a mic forum and not about what I think about them or what they think about me... it's about mic's and what we think about them. Did freshmattyp or cominginsecond offer something constructive in this thread, I don't so... they just follow me around tagging my post with crap like they did above... and I think it's because they have nothing to offer other than calling me names.

You're right. I didn't offer anything constructive to the thread, other than pointing out that you offered nothing constructive. So I guess that makes us both worthless opinionated pricks. As for tagging your post with crap, well, it didn't smell so great when I found it, so a little eau de merde on top wasn't going to make that much difference.

As for having nothing to offer, that's in the eye of the beholder. I try to be helpful, and not just offer some so half assed simile about house painting.

I guess the bottom line for me is I think you bring nothing to the mic forum other than rudeness. You go out of your way to make posts that are insulting and generally unhelpful. You don't seem to be able to form a complete thought without needing to go back and edit. In short, I wish you would just go away. That's never going to happen, because you obvously lack any sort of self awareness.

To get back on topic, I think the B1 is dollar for dollar a better mic that the 4033. I also like the AKG C2000B better.

 

[Bobalou]

i use o B-1 on occasions for things. it works well in those applications. however my 4033 is a much better build quality without a doubt, and it sounds better than the the B-1 on accoustic guitars and vocals. my B-1 sounds better as an omni room mic for drums and better basically means trashier for that application. certainly the price cant be compared, the B-1 wins in that dept, but overall (though I like the B-1) the 4033 is a better sounding mic more often on most sources....IMO...as a user of both.

 

[DJL]

Is it of any interest to anybody that the 4033 has a small (5/8") diaphragm, while the B1 has a large (1") diaphragm? You're not really comparing mics of similar design.

Just a technical observation, since I don't own either mic.

Yes, that kind of stuff seems to happen a lot on this forum... i.e. SM57 vs B1, 4033 vs B1, and my favorite Mr. Microphone vs B1. If more people would take the time to read your big thread and the FAQ they might not post like that as much... well the SP spamers still might. I think too many people are trying to find ONE MIC that's best for everything... and there just is no such beast.

 

[DJL]

So DJ's got a lot of mics. That makes him an expert?

Well, I gotta lotta shit in my colon, so I guess that makes me a proctologist.

Wanna hear about that crap?

I'm no expert but I do have a lot of mic's and lots of hands on experience and know what I like and dislike... but Harvey is the mic forum expert. Oh, and I'm sorry to hear your full of shit... no wonder your always so grumpy.

freshmattyp, I think you send more time trying to flame me than you do helping anyone... it seems a few of you SP dickwads are taking turns shooting at me... and I think it funnier than hell.

 

[DJL]

I said that they sound very similar, and that the B1 was reputed to sound better than the B3, so if I like a B3 on a source, chances are a B1 would sound good too. Now that I own both of these mics, I know that that's generally true.

I'm sorry if you cannot grasp a subtle, nuanced argument. Next time I'll state it like this:

"B3 GOOOOD!!!!"

"B1 BETTER, BUT SIMILAR!!!!!"

Is that dumbed down enough for you?

Yeah, I know you had to change your BS to cover your ass... hell, it wasn't that long ago when you swore the B1 and B3 sounded the SAME and you didn't even own both mic's at the time.... now that was funny, but very misleading and wrong to do, so I had to correct you so you didn't mislead others.

 

[cominginsecond]

Yeah, I know you had to change your BS to cover your ass... hell, it wasn't that long ago when you swore the B1 and B3 sounded the SAME and you didn't even own both mic's at the time.... now that was funny, but very misleading and wrong to do, so I had to correct you so you didn't mislead others.

You're a liar. I never said they sounded identical. I did say that the B3 was the multipattern version of the B1, but I never said they sounded identical.

 

[ad0lescnts]

besides a u87 and mics over 1500 bones what are the mics that are better that you are comparing the SP's to?

just wondering...

T

 

[Dethska]

FWIW- I like the Studio Projects B1 over the Behringer B1.

I've a/b'd the SP B1 vs. V67. Different sounds that would work in different situations. Couldn't say what was better. I liked the B1 a little better personally.

For $80 bucks I don't don't know of anything besides the SP B1 and V67 that are any good at all.

For the under $1K category, I'll bet the B1 and V67 are piece o shit mics.

I don't have $1K. I barely had $80.

Doesn't really seem worth the arguments that people start. Chessrock doesn't like the V67. DJL hates the B1. So what? If you like it, buy it. And if a newbie listens to DJL and Chessrock, well then they can ignore the B1 and V67 and get a "better" mic. For more money.

 

[DJL]

I did say that the B3 was the multipattern version of the B1

You made that statement also when you only owned a B3 and no B1's at the time... I had to correct that false statement too, so you didn't mislead others.

 

[chessrock]

Well, I gotta lotta shit in my colon, so I guess that makes me a proctologist.

No, it just makes you full of shit.

 

[Han]

It simply is great to read this thread. A while back there was a discussion on another audio forum about the AKG C1000.

A couple of guys were bashing this mic, it was only good as a sigar holder or doorstop etc.

So I made the statement that although the C1000 isn't a great mic and too expensive for the quality you get, a smart engineer can make a Grammy Award winning record with just a number of C1000's.

The result was enormous, I got bashed like hell.

Until a very respected well known engineer, owner of three big studios in New York said something like: guys, you're pissing the wrong tree. I know this man personally, it's a rock solid engineer from the north of Europe (these were his words) and he perfectly knows his shit.

Suddenly everybody went 180 degrees left / right and I was da man.

That was very funny.

BTW, a B1 will outperform a C1000

 

[crazydoc]

No, it just makes you full of shit.

At least I know it.