4-18-03

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this was supposed to be a scratch track just so I wouldn't forget the riff.. I ended up adding extra stuff.. any comments on the sound are appreciated..

destroy it..

thanks if you bother..

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the beginning is a trip in a half :) ... kinda takes away from the coolness of the break in verse... but someone might like that? relative i guess

I really like your vocals on this one!

whatever your doing ... sounds nice.. fits in the mix great

cool chord changes..

Nice work sam!
 
Warped intro. And in a good and tasteful way like always. I was expecting the song to kick in about 0:45, but the intro continued on. I would have keep it shorter, but I'm just typing as I listen, so it's just my fresh ears. The snare is a bit too... I dunno. Just something about it, almost a distorting quality in it. It doesn't clip or anything, but it just has that something. Weird. Maybe I need some rest. The song sounds it needs some work. There's the wicked intro part and the fast part with vocals. I'd imagine the intro part coming back somewhere there WITH some kind of vocal lines. But there could be other stuff modified too. The intro part has some similar feels as the rest of the song. Almost like it was a twisted version of the rest of the song, so it could work as a short outro too. These are all just suggestions and I'm not going to tell you how to write a song since you're very good at it.

Oh, and make those 2:34 screams louder :D So that the effect is more potent or whatever :D (just my opinion, though) The mix doesn't feel as loud as usual. Did you use a limiter yet?


...and I hope this reply made some sense. :D
 
Yeah, Very nice vocs. No middiness......none of that shite.
I think that we share a problem. In my experience (limited:)) ,It seems its alot tougher to mix and record a voice that is loud, even if that volume is consistant. When i attempt to sing in a higher register, it feels natural for me to belt it out. ......as you know.......sometimes a man's gotta bust his shit loose.:D
But, .....that brings in gain problems ..... and if i back off of a condenser too far, i get all kinds of proximity problems. Its a bitch. I like the sound of my condenser over my selection of dynamics, but sometimes i have no choice but to use them. ........................ Anyway, .....you dont have any of those problems here:D, and i would guess that part of the reason is because your vocal levels are lower, volume-wise, into the mic.

......very nice vocals man...... recording and content-wise.

The mix sounds great..... nothing bugged me at all.

....tune-wise......... classic Samicide...... ..and that is always a good thing!!

gw/5
 
Captivating song, I thought the first half was absolutely classic. Nice use of melody.

I couldn't tell if it was a guitar or a synth playing through the opening.

Sometimes I wish that ebow thingy would step all over the mix, like in sections at the end where it was soloing with the full band.

btw, have you ever heard of Hawkwind? For some reason this tune had a lot of that vibe for me (this is a good thing), nice cushy space rock.

It ended too soon for me :), very cool.

boy there's been a lot of good stuff the last ocuple of days, must be spring.
 
I've learned to download it before it gets deleted!;)

back later....
 
I think the overall sound is a definate step in the right direction. It's thick but all the instuments have a solid place in the mix. All the previous recorings I've dl'd of yours are real thick to. But the guitars seemed to cover so much sonic range that I don't think I could totaly seperate the guits from the bass and so on.

Also the vocals are crisper sounding. Doesn't sound like the treble was turned off.

I like :)

Keep this stuff comin' man!

This is just my 2 cents. :D

Cool!

~scott
 
4 listens so far. Let you know after 4 more tomorrow ..................................tired , going to bed..............................Screw it! I'm up after a gig & can't sleep . Lets do it this!

..... the intro doesnt do anything for me and needs more thematic inclusion to the tune on all levels ..........lacks emotion, bothers me esp/ as the transition to the meat is non existent and to abrupt., also is to mathematical in synth notes esp/ @ the end of its closing.

Vocals are hip, clean and effective. Guitars smoke!!!Bass is fine, man!

Drums are plastic , sound like fruity loops on intro until you start playing.( well I might add)

Body of the tune friggin' screams , BUT, too full and phat too soon .......... you shoot your load much to fast orchestrally and dynamically at the initial statement............It goes nowhere on the emotional and arrangement osciliscope (sp?) and declines on all levels after 1:35 on an instrumental synopsis.

As you know , I usually comment on musical structure as opposed to recording technique , but there are some things in the background that need tons of leveling on this mix.

Ending also needs major attention & tlc.

Sab, I love your stuff but you let this one outta the box to soon!

look forward to a smoother arrangement and final mix.

Dump the intro and begin the tune @ 1:14 unless you can somehow make it more cohesive.

YOU DID SAY IT WAS A SCRATCH TRACK , RIGHT ????

A fan,
Ralph
 
well..........I like all of your stuff but this isn't one of my favorites. The two things that bother me in particular is that theramin sounding thing during the intro and the guitar sound (lead) on the rockin' part. Too science-fiction movie sounding for me.
Still, a good tune as all of yours are.
 
Won't comment on anything before 1:12 because I have no idea what you were going for with that. Would be a killer piece to open the stage act!! The song itself that starts at 1:12 is good and is deserving of completion. Another example why B.SABBATH continues to write music worthy of a commercial CD.
 
Am I the only one who likes the intro? :D

You know what would be cool to add though? An autotuner on that weird open wah'd (is that even a word?) sologuitar! I mean it, try it! :)

The rest rocks. Especially for a scratch track. I like the wall of guitars!

I don't comment any further, because it's a scratch track. You probably replace everything anyway.... :D
 
allrajt...

98%...99%...100%... [open]

haha.. you need help :D

Again.. not much to say.. It's another good song. Maybe the vocals need some work. but it's a scratch track.. i know...

Looking forward to the final version.

EDIT: oooh yeah. my favourite avatar is BACK!! GO EMPIRE!!!
 
thanks! I took the tune down for now..

JMarcomb - thanks Jeff! This board really is helping tremendously.. It seems not many people cared for the intro.. Your not alone! :D




Cranky One - your right about the snare.. (nothing gets passed you! :D)I experimented with a totally different snare sound.. I am planning on singing over the intro.. I just threw down some leads to fill the space for now.. I also took it easy on the limiter because I was mainly interested in how things were sounding so far.. I didn't want it to sound too finished.. :D thanks Crankable!



Guernica - thanks Mike! I hear ya man.. You know what's strange is I was watching the latest Godsmack video and he was holding his SM 58 the same way I used to when I was getting the crappier vocal sound.. If you get a chance to catch that video, that's how I used to hold it.. I don't know how come he can get away with it! :D Yeah this was a scratch so I wouldn't forget the idea.. I just kept adding to it.. I will start this again from scratch and sing over parts of the intro.. I'm keeping the intro no matter what they say! :D I thought about getting a condenser but I don't think my voice should be heard that clearly.. Maybe when I get a good acoustic I'll look into a condenser.. I don't think this one deserved 5, but thanks dude! :D





Doug H - thanks Doug.. I actually switched from guitar and synth during the intro.. I tried to make the synth sound guitarish.. I will be cranking the solos much louder on the new version.. This was mainly a scratch track that I got carried away with.. I never heard of 'Hawkind' but I'll try to check some out.. I hear ya though, there has been some good tunes on the board this month.. thanks!




mixmkr - I have no idea what your talking about!! (the song was deleted about an hour ago) :D :D





sjcrts - thanks scott! I try to make my tunes like me, thick! :D :D This was just a scratch track man.. I was looking for ears on the overall sound.. thanks for the ears!




flat-9 - "YOU DID SAY IT WAS A SCRATCH TRACK , RIGHT ???? " yeah! Thanks for listening with that in mind. The drums were done in Fruity Loops.. :D I don't understand what yyou mean by'mathematical notes.' I can't read or write music so it was an accident.. Besides, I really suck at math! :D As far as 'lacking emotion,' I don't know what to do about that.. I just go with the flow.. "you shoot your load much to fast orchestrally and dynamically at the initial statement" I've been having this problem a lot lately! :( :D :D I appreciate your detailed response man, especially after hearing the seriousness of your tunes.. I probably shouldn't have posted this yet because it was just a scratch, but I wanted to know if the low end was too much.. I'll be back with this one in a few days.. I want to keep the intro and sing over some parts of it.. We'll see... thanks!!!





Lt. Bob - It seems like the intro was disliked across the board.. :D I'm surprised people around here dig anything about any of my tunes.. Yeah 'Science fiction sounding' is a good description.. thanks Steve!!!! BTW, I'm moving in 2 weeks but I found the CD with the other sax line you sent me when we did 'the experiment..' I'll be doing something with it soon.. I'll send you a p.m. when I begin on it..




homeuser - I wasn't going for anything with the intro.. I just thought it sounded cool.. :) Thanks for the ears man!!




Pedullist - Yeah man, not many people liked the intro.. I guess you have to be a little strange to get into somthing like that.. I have already started a completely new version.. Thanks Ped!!!



Meshuggah - I started the real version.. This was just to get some ears on the sound.. Hopefully the actual tune will be better.. thansk Mesh!!!!














thanks again for all the input on the scratch tracks everyone!! I took the song down and will post the real version soon.. May as well let this thread die since the tune is gone! Thanks!! Have a great Easter!!!! :)
 
mixmkr said:
I've learned to download it before it gets deleted!;)

back later....
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B.SABB:I took the song down and will post the real version soon..

:p
 
Um.... Never say die.

I dl'd it and you can't stop me from listening to it!!

:p
 
Stratomaster said:
B.SABB:I took the song down and will post the real version soon..

:p
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Thats me for sure. Always showing up right after they run out of buns for the chili dogs. Damn!

I`ll wait on ya :D
 
Re: thanks! I took the tune down for now..

flat-9 - D I don't understand what yyou mean by'mathematical notes.D As far as 'lacking emotion,' I don't know what to do about that.. I just go with the flow..

"you shoot your load much to fast orchestrally and dynamically at the initial statement" I've been having this problem a lot lately! :( :D :D I appreciate your detailed response man, especially after hearing the seriousness of your tunes..

Sam,

The mathamatical notes- and lacking emotion statements were NOT a result of your playing as I regard your playing as verypassionate.

Once the tune kicked in, Sabby was quite present! It was the quantized nature of the synth notes, ( spaced to perfectly) and the sameness of the volume of each note. If you keep the intro, you might try a more touch sensitive patch. Anything you can do to keep the transition less stark between the intro & main body of the tune will help make it work.


Hope this helps in your future work on this one.

Keep rockin' Sam & I'll be lookin' for this one.
Ralph

ps...LMAO @ your comparison statement!!!I'm sure it's because your lady(ies) must be just TOO hot.:D :D :D
 
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