3 mic drum set up with a new Studio Projects C1 overhead (MP3 sample)

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This is just a C1 as an overhead mic along with an SM57 for the snare
& an AKG D112 in the kick. That's it!!! So, all the toms & cymbals
(& some snare) are the C1 alone.

MP3 sample
 
Amazing drums

Thanks alot for posting the mp3. I'm a big fan of minimal drum micing. Your recording sounds really great. How does it sound in a mix? I would like to hear more if you have stuff. I just got a studio projects T3 so i hope it is as good as the C1.

I would also really love to check out what kinds of sounds others are getting out of their gear.

Thanks again.
 
The kit sounds great, but I hate that Crash! Hahaha I'm just not a fan of little crashes.
What is that, a 16"? It just sounds like a dead cymbal to me.
The Hats sound awesome, the Ride is nice and crisp sounding, and the Toms have a great tone to them.

Tim
 
that sounds pretty good...

yea, i agree the Hats sit well...

how about describing the mic placements for all three.

also your kick muffling technique...
 
Hey Tim,
Yep, you have a good ear....16 it is! My 17 & 18 are in the trap case for
the weekend gigs & stuff. They do have more sustain & spread when you
whack 'em.

Sonixx,
The C1 is about a foot over my head, the 57 is in the usual position, &
the D112 is mounted in the kick about 6 inches from the front head
pointing where the pedal hits the head. Both heads are on the there with
no hole cut out in the front. There's no muffling in the kick other than 2"
outer rings of foam that sit against the heads along the shell. They're
held in place by the same screws that hold the lugs.
 
Slider said:
This is just a C1 as an overhead mic along with an SM57 for the snare
& an AKG D112 in the kick. That's it!!! So, all the toms & cymbals
(& some snare) are the C1 alone.

MP3 sample
Click to expand...

I have been using my C1 as an "auxilary drum fill mic" when the band is practicing. I use Harvy's 3 mic setup with 2x C1000 as overhead and a Audio Technica Pro25 on kick. I put the C! in the center of the kit aboout even with the outer edge of the cymbal line up 6' high pointing at the snare. I get an excelent tonal fill from the C1 which really livens up the rest of the mix.

For studio sessions where drums are only instrument I put the C1 even further out from the set and close mic more drums, but the result is almost a draw as far as quality.

Wild Phil Harmonica
 
great,great and by the way...great!!!

that was a great mix! could you tell me were you miced the kick and the snare( 5"/2" like that.) what compressor settings you used on each mic and did you eq.(if so. what & how)

you see i'm trying to get a good drum sound and yours is sound great!!!!!!!


zeke
 
See my previous post for mic positions. I used no compressor at all.
Overhead mic & snare mic were EQed flat. Kick had a bit of low end boost
& enough high end added to get that "snap" when the beater hits the head.
Thanks for the compliments, by the way!!!
 
heads?

what kind of bass drum heads where you using and where did you put the mic and what kind of muffuling did you use?
 
oh! and one more thing! (dang i'm nosie!)

i'm using a fostex vf-16 recorder and when i record snare i have
to boost some hi's because it sound to mid and muddy. some people have told me that can be fixed with good mic placement.
i'm placing it to the hard left of the snare about 2" from the rim.
where did you put your's?


oh and what the heck is a c1 mic (and who makes it?)
 
ZEKE,
They're just plain old Remo Ambassadors. No pillows, blankets, or towels inside.
Just a strip of soft foam along each head where they meet the shell inside the kick.
My SM57 snare mic placement is about the same as yours, around 10 o'clock at about
2-3" from the rim. If you don't have a decent condenser mic, you probably will
hafta boost the high EQ of your dynamic mic somewhat. It's the condenser
that's overhead (the C1 in this case) picking up all the crisp stuff. This was all
recorded into a KORG D1600.
 
thanks dude!

remo's huh? i should have know.


thanks buddy!

zeke
 
Thanks. This sort of answers my question. Basically, I'm trying to decide which mixer to buy based how I will mic my kit. I just want to get a decent recording just to put my ideas on CD. So, I'm not looking for master quality, but I don't want them sound like they were mic'd with one microphone in the distance either.

I suppose I could start with 3 mics and expand from there if I'm not happy. Like everyone says, you have to experiment.

Dave
 
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