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Bulls Hit
Well-known member
Wow that's just crazy. Superb skills, musicianship and engineering
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Greg_L
Banned
Yeah both songs sound fantastic. Great playing and production.
Are those real drums?
Are those real drums?
GONZO-X
Well-known member
variaxman
thanks for listening......!
that was nice to say.. 'inspirational'....
superhuman
skills, schmills, as long as you dig the tune, i'm good!
thanks for checking it out.
bulls Hit
yep, i kinda have to be a bit nuts to do this kind of gig.... only guitar players dig it!
LOL
oh well....
thanks for listening, glad you liked it.
Greg L
thanks for the kind words...
the drums, on the ZOOM song, are the Zoom 123 drum machine, programmed.
the drums on !st Tracks, are drum samples played in ACID. again, programmed in advance.
thanks for listening
thanks for listening......!
that was nice to say.. 'inspirational'....
superhuman
skills, schmills, as long as you dig the tune, i'm good!
thanks for checking it out.
bulls Hit
yep, i kinda have to be a bit nuts to do this kind of gig.... only guitar players dig it!
LOL
oh well....
thanks for listening, glad you liked it.
Greg L
thanks for the kind words...
the drums, on the ZOOM song, are the Zoom 123 drum machine, programmed.
the drums on !st Tracks, are drum samples played in ACID. again, programmed in advance.
thanks for listening
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Dan Barnes
New member
Yep, we're all real proud of Gonz... raised him from a pup. 
Isn't it amazing that he's not famous? He's up there with the best of 'em, in my book.
Isn't it amazing that he's not famous? He's up there with the best of 'em, in my book.
Freudian Slip
New member
Some ripping stuff! I used to say I played guitar. I may have to change that 
F.S.
I used to say I played guitar. I may have to change that F.S.
GONZO-X
Well-known member
dan!
haha
a pup, eh?!
well, i have been trippin the vs-light fantastic for a few years now......
thanks for the kind words.
SLIP!
glad you liked it!!
haha
a pup, eh?!
well, i have been trippin the vs-light fantastic for a few years now......
thanks for the kind words.
SLIP!
glad you liked it!!
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joeydego
New member
greeat stuff! good playing, and good mix. no complaints here.
J
Jouni
New member
Dude!!!!..Quit that!!.. 
Man, excessively nice. First time I listened I was stunned, this is the third listening on a row... Things are taking alot of space..(echo?)..but that ain't bad at all.. damn.
"First tracks"-is amazing.
I'll confess here and now. I saved "First tracks" to my computer, to "earrest"-folder, which I'm going to escape in from time to time when attemptin mixes of my own. If you mind just say it...
Man, excessively nice. First time I listened I was stunned, this is the third listening on a row... Things are taking alot of space..(echo?)..but that ain't bad at all.. damn.
"First tracks"-is amazing.
I'll confess here and now. I saved "First tracks" to my computer, to "earrest"-folder, which I'm going to escape in from time to time when attemptin mixes of my own. If you mind just say it...
Alf Jetzer
XX
perfect playing indeed !
But there is also a but: it leaves no afterward-impression, after a minute all is gone, no red line, no hook, a bulk of tones remain in your head. If you could embed your skills into a composing manner then it would be most perfect music
But there is also a but: it leaves no afterward-impression, after a minute all is gone, no red line, no hook, a bulk of tones remain in your head. If you could embed your skills into a composing manner then it would be most perfect music
SnakeDog5050
2 headed snake witha rake
Excellent recording, tracking. Far better than anything I could do. "First tracks" has a great vibe, great playing, great mixing. Same with "Zoom," my only nit is that on my system, there is a bit of a low end boom that sticks out that wasn't present in "First Tracks" Congrats on some good tunes
Llarion
New member
GONZO-X said:
First Tracks is a blast! What a fun groove! Kick and bass could use some more intensity. Kinda sounds like a guitarist mixed it, ya know?
Totally wicked tune though, great chops, great interest in the changes, very stylish. Cool beanos!
GONZO-X
Well-known member
joeydego
thanks for checking it out.... glad you dig it!
Jouni
first tracks, the echo (reverb, probably) is the way the original drum tracks were recorded, so it kinda set the 'mood', or sound style...
i think i'd rather it be drier, but once i had the drum tracks already done, i just went with the flow.
sometimes it sucks being stuck with sampled tracks to program, but it's still better than a crappy drum machine!
i'd be honored for you to use the track for whatever..... only, i'd warn that using mp3's is not a real good idea, for a/bing serious mixes......
i'd be happy to send you an honest 16 bit wav file (basically a cd) if you want.... just PM me.
Alf Jetzer
thanks for the kind words...
and i understand what you're saying about it not hooking you...
a lot of folks dig more 'song-oriented' arrangements, and sometimes instrumentals just hit folks a little askew......
zoom was composed from beginning to end...
and a lot of arrangement and rhythm/solo elements were worked out in advance...
obviously, 1st tracks just devolves into a jam, for the entire 2nd part of the song... but that was the intent.
the front was strict, with harmony and melody and arrangement, the 2nd half was just a bluesy jam.
i write so much material, that i need an element in some of my stuff, that's a little more... loosy-goosy, and that's what these guys are.
thanks for the thoughts on it.....
SnakeDog5050
zoom- yeah, i think you're right, that was one of my earliest attempts at 'mastering' my own mixes, and there are some bass elements that i don't like.
i'm playing with some new software that will let me take my old backup files from the roland system, and convert them to standard wav files... which i would then open up in sonar, and re-mix this whole turkey!!
LOL
but, i haven't had enough time to dig into it since i've had it, so it's sitting for about another week.....
1st tracks, was done in sonar, and i had a lot more control of what i really wanted.
it's a big difference, between a DAW like sonar, and an all-in-one box like the roland vs (which zoom was recorded on)
Llarion
yep, guitarist-mixed....
guilty as charged!
LOL
well, when i mix my singing songs, i mix different, so yeah, guitar gets the main treatment when it's a instrumental.
i do have some more spacey stuff that gets mixed as if i just listened to a pink floyd album, or something...\
but aggressive rock instrumentals just want loud guitar mixes, it seems.
hey, i didn't make the rules!
thanks for checking it out.... glad you dig it!
Jouni
first tracks, the echo (reverb, probably) is the way the original drum tracks were recorded, so it kinda set the 'mood', or sound style...
i think i'd rather it be drier, but once i had the drum tracks already done, i just went with the flow.
sometimes it sucks being stuck with sampled tracks to program, but it's still better than a crappy drum machine!
i'd be honored for you to use the track for whatever..... only, i'd warn that using mp3's is not a real good idea, for a/bing serious mixes......
i'd be happy to send you an honest 16 bit wav file (basically a cd) if you want.... just PM me.
Alf Jetzer
thanks for the kind words...
and i understand what you're saying about it not hooking you...
a lot of folks dig more 'song-oriented' arrangements, and sometimes instrumentals just hit folks a little askew......
zoom was composed from beginning to end...
and a lot of arrangement and rhythm/solo elements were worked out in advance...
obviously, 1st tracks just devolves into a jam, for the entire 2nd part of the song... but that was the intent.
the front was strict, with harmony and melody and arrangement, the 2nd half was just a bluesy jam.
i write so much material, that i need an element in some of my stuff, that's a little more... loosy-goosy, and that's what these guys are.
thanks for the thoughts on it.....
SnakeDog5050
zoom- yeah, i think you're right, that was one of my earliest attempts at 'mastering' my own mixes, and there are some bass elements that i don't like.
i'm playing with some new software that will let me take my old backup files from the roland system, and convert them to standard wav files... which i would then open up in sonar, and re-mix this whole turkey!!
LOL
but, i haven't had enough time to dig into it since i've had it, so it's sitting for about another week.....
1st tracks, was done in sonar, and i had a lot more control of what i really wanted.
it's a big difference, between a DAW like sonar, and an all-in-one box like the roland vs (which zoom was recorded on)
Llarion
yep, guitarist-mixed....
guilty as charged!
LOL
well, when i mix my singing songs, i mix different, so yeah, guitar gets the main treatment when it's a instrumental.
i do have some more spacey stuff that gets mixed as if i just listened to a pink floyd album, or something...\
but aggressive rock instrumentals just want loud guitar mixes, it seems.
hey, i didn't make the rules!
Llarion
New member
Well, don't feel bass, my mixes are biased toward bass and drums... Same reasons..
Same reasons..
Alf Jetzer
XX
GONZO-X said:joeydego
Alf Jetzer
thanks for the kind words...
and i understand what you're saying about it not hooking you...
a lot of folks dig more 'song-oriented' arrangements, and sometimes instrumentals just hit folks a little askew......
zoom was composed from beginning to end...
and a lot of arrangement and rhythm/solo elements were worked out in advance...
obviously, 1st tracks just devolves into a jam, for the entire 2nd part of the song... but that was the intent.
the front was strict, with harmony and melody and arrangement, the 2nd half was just a bluesy jam.
i write so much material, that i need an element in some of my stuff, that's a little more... loosy-goosy, and that's what these guys are.
thanks for the thoughts on it.....
To be frank : I'm impressed by your kind answer. I was thinking "now he will hate me forever for this". I wanted to bring in this thoughts, coz I'm one who working up to 4 months on a 4 min tune to make it rememberable at least forever
.In german we say :"creating an earworm"
But again: your playing catching "the moment" perfectly.
Best,
Alf
GONZO-X
Well-known member
alf-
GONZO-X
Well-known member
Alf Jetzer
"But again: your playing catching "the moment" perfectly."
ha, you capture the sentiment exactly!
these songs (being instrumental) are just as valid as anything with a lyric and a heartbeat...
in songs like these, i find that melody lines are harder to 'invent', harder to create, and harder to perform, than my typical sing-song format tunes...
not so much on the 2nd half of "!st Tracks", which is obviously a jam...
but moreso with tunes like 'Zoom'.
i find i end up spending a whole lot more time working out harmonies and melodies and chord structures that actually work, than i do finding simple rhymes and melodies to go along with typical verse-bridge-chorus type song structure.
it requires quite a bit of focus and diligence for me to come up with advanced melodies and harmonies on stuff like this, especially a song like 'Zoom', where everything is worked out in advance....
"But again: your playing catching "the moment" perfectly."
ha, you capture the sentiment exactly!
these songs (being instrumental) are just as valid as anything with a lyric and a heartbeat...
in songs like these, i find that melody lines are harder to 'invent', harder to create, and harder to perform, than my typical sing-song format tunes...
not so much on the 2nd half of "!st Tracks", which is obviously a jam...
but moreso with tunes like 'Zoom'.
i find i end up spending a whole lot more time working out harmonies and melodies and chord structures that actually work, than i do finding simple rhymes and melodies to go along with typical verse-bridge-chorus type song structure.
it requires quite a bit of focus and diligence for me to come up with advanced melodies and harmonies on stuff like this, especially a song like 'Zoom', where everything is worked out in advance....
Alf Jetzer
XX
thanks for your insights.GONZO-X said:Alf Jetzer
"But again: your playing catching "the moment" perfectly."
ha, you capture the sentiment exactly!
these songs (being instrumental) are just as valid as anything with a lyric and a heartbeat...
in songs like these, i find that melody lines are harder to 'invent', harder to create, and harder to perform, than my typical sing-song format tunes...
not so much on the 2nd half of "!st Tracks", which is obviously a jam...
but moreso with tunes like 'Zoom'.
i find i end up spending a whole lot more time working out harmonies and melodies and chord structures that actually work, than i do finding simple rhymes and melodies to go along with typical verse-bridge-chorus type song structure.
it requires quite a bit of focus and diligence for me to come up with advanced melodies and harmonies on stuff like this, especially a song like 'Zoom', where everything is worked out in advance....
I undertand this. There are tousands of ways to express musical feelings, like different sport disciplines. If one "throws his whole existence into his work", then there can be nothing wrong, the listener will be carried away by the energy "behind the music", no matter what style. As i mentioned, i dig the "earworm-aspect" of music. I'm not that good on guitar like you, but you may enjoy this world-music piece for which i spent 2 months
Best,
Alf
GONZO-X
Well-known member
alf-
very nice tune,
ethereal reverb and echos on the mix...
reminds me of some of the background music that lito uses in his skiing class dvd....
thanks for sharing
very nice tune,
ethereal reverb and echos on the mix...
reminds me of some of the background music that lito uses in his skiing class dvd....
thanks for sharing