¼'' to an RCA?

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The M-Audio Omni Studio has two ¼’' monitor out jacks, however I’m using my home stereo receiver as a monitor unfortunately the only inputs I see on the back of the receiver are RCA AUX/ VCR, Tape, CD player.

It is possible to run two stereo ¼ jacks to -> two RCA jacks with some kind of adaptor? Is there even such an adaptor?
 
Yep Radio Shack or most any electronics store will have them
 
if you can think of it...theres probably an adapter for it...... there are 1/4 to rca cables...I'm running 4 on my setup
 
Thanks guys,
I am debating whether to buy the Delta 1010 or save some money by getting the Omni Studio but the Studio only has them quarter inch monitor outs so I was worried. Thanks good news then!
Now that I think of it though, the 1010 also has quarter outs, but thats fine now that I know this.


By the way, doses anyone know: Can you use the Omni studio to run through the Delta1010 as a pre amp? so say I need more inouts later on.
Another words my only reasons for going with the Omni studio is so I can get the pre amp but to be honest I really like the fact that the Delat1010 has Midi support and way more In/Outs as well as Midi support.

I’m just afraid I’m going to need to spend way more money as I don’t have a guitar pre amp, I don’t think you can just plug your guitar into the 1010 right?
I would also need a mic pre amp for my Sm57 mic I also have a Condenser mic with a phantom box but that would do me no good as far as getting a line level to the Delta1010 rack unit…right?
 
i think you can run the omni studio as a preamp but as far as getting a 1010...have you thought about the 1010lt? the price drops to 279 i think....the only difference is the 1010 is a breakout box the 1010lt still has midi ins and outs and a digital in and out. you can plug your guitar directly into the 1010 or omni studio but you only get the sound of the guitar. the 1010lt has 2 mic preamps on the soundcard. a phantom box can connect to the 1010 through a xlr to 1/4 cable
 
Yes, the 1010LT was the first card I looked at but it only has RCAs and no Balanced ins,
That’s very important to me as far as getting low noise signals from my mic’s.

I’m thinking I should get the Omni Studio just because of the fact that the 1010 needs Pre amps and that might be a ton of money. Or can I get two cheep preamps?

Again I’m not using the pre amps to shape my sound; I’ll us the software to do that. But I do need something to give my Mic and guitar some kind of line level if I do go with the 1010

Basically I’m sure the Omni Studios built in pre amps are nothing special, that makes me wonder if I can just get two cheep preamps to run through to the Delta 1010 for a line level? I'll use the software to shape my actual sound.
 
Yeah sounds like the 1010LT would suit your needs better. It's already got the rca jacks so you wouldn't need the converter cables, and it's got 2 preamps built in.

With the money you save you could get a proper mixer instead of the omni unit - something like the Yamaha MG12/4.

Actually these guys http://www.digitalproaudio.com/ give a 10% discount on M-Audio gear at the moment, so you can get it even cheaper than the $279 it usually costs
 
Sorry you replied before I could fix something.
I wanted to edit what I said above, I ment to say


The 1010LT was the first card I looked at. It’s got two mic pre amps which is nice but I still need a pre amp for my guitar...right?
also, I would need a converter cable to bring my guitar in becouse it uses a 1/4 unbalenced.

Other thing is, it’s too bad the cables are so short; someone was telling me that it can create noise but I would think it would be more a hastle just having the wires down behind the PC.
 
Ya, was just looking at the Yamaha MG12/4
That looks nice, doses that thing have separate outs? So If I understand this correct are you suggesting to use the Yamaha MG12/4 more so as a Pre amp to the 1010Lt?

There is even a Yamaha MG10/2 I saw that looked like it would do the trick but I couldn’t tell if it had Outs.

Man this tuff is confusing sometimes.
 
Yeah I actually crossposted with your earlier one.

I honestly don't think you need to worry about noise in unbalanced cables. In a home recording situation, you're leads aren't going to be that long.

I'm not about hooking up your guitar to that preamp. What I do when I can't make any noise is plug my guitar into my MG12/4 mixer, and use the preamp in that, instead of micing the cab. Then in the software I can use Input Monitoring and listen to any effects in real time
 
Starstreams said:
Ya, was just looking at the Yamaha MG12/4
That looks nice, doses that thing have separate outs? So If I understand this correct are you suggesting to use the Yamaha MG12/4 more so as a Pre amp to the 1010Lt?

There is even a Yamaha MG10/2 I saw that looked like it would do the trick but I couldn’t tell if it had Outs.

Man this tuff is confusing sometimes.
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Cripes another crosspost. OK I've quoted this time so you'll know which post I'm replying to.

The MG 12/4 is a 4-bus mixer, but you can get up to 10 outs from it - more than enought to drive the 1010LT. It's got 6 preamps.

The MG10/2 is a smaller 2-bus version with 4 preamps. I think the 12/4 would be a better fit for your requirements
 
Usually guitars are unbalanced so that’s not really an issue but mics must be balanced which is not a problem for the 1010Lt because it has two XLR inputs with preamps

I’m not to sure what a bus mixer is: correct me if I’m wrong but dose that mean you can record 4 sources simultaneously but only 4 at once?

One more thing: where did you see 10 outs on that Yamaha mixer? And what kind of outs are they? ¼ or RCA?

Just so I can identify what these outputs look like on the Yamaha mixer, how do they label them?
 
The mics will plug into the balanced xlr inputs on the mixer. The output from the mixer can be either balanced or unbalanced into your soundcard.

The MG12/4 allows you to input upto 12 instruments at once, with upto 6 balanced xlr or 1/4" inputs and 6 phone type or rca unbalanced inputs.

For outputs, you have the 2 main (stereo) outs, either xlr or balanced 1/4", 2 group outs balanced 1/4", 2 aux sends balanced 1/4", and 4 unbalanced outputs from the inserts
 
Thanks for that info Bulls

One thing about inserts was, I always thought they were mainly for compressors. Why would you use an out from an insert? Unless you had something plugged into the insert, but I don't think that would be a guitar right?

Now would you use the aux sends to to send your guitar and microphone signals to the sound card or rather the groups out?

I mean it has a lot of inputs but if you wanted to simultaneously send out 6 or more instruments at once, I don't think you can you..right?
As far as stereo outs, wouldn't those usually go to a mix down tape or recording unit? with two stereo groups, your getting a left and right but everything is coming out at once rather then having separate instruments going out to separate tracks.

Not sure if I’m asking this correct but. With all these different outputs your talking about, can you have stuff coming out of them in real time while your playing. So say I have 2 people miced and two guitars playing at once, that’s 4 things right there that would need to go out to separate tracks or channels in the sound card.
 
lol damn yall were up a good bit ...i took about 9 shots and woulda been incoherent. inserts can be used for compressors but thats if the trs plug is all the way in...if you put the plug in until the first click..it becomes a send. the xlr input and the line in input is where you guitar cable. you can send the guitar signal as a bus or from the aux send... "6 in one a half dozen in the other". you can send 6 instruments out through the inserts on the mixer channels. stereo outs can go into your soundcard as other signals.
 
Starstreams said:
I mean it has a lot of inputs but if you wanted to simultaneously send out 6 or more instruments at once, I don't think you can you..right?
As far as stereo outs, wouldn't those usually go to a mix down tape or recording unit? with two stereo groups, your getting a left and right but everything is coming out at once rather then having separate instruments going out to separate tracks.

Not sure if I’m asking this correct but. With all these different outputs your talking about, can you have stuff coming out of them in real time while your playing. So say I have 2 people miced and two guitars playing at once, that’s 4 things right there that would need to go out to separate tracks or channels in the sound card.
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That's the beauty of mixers - you get a lot of flexibility in how you can route your signals. There are many ways you can do something - there is no one right way.
You most certainly can record 6 instruments at once with that mixer and a 1010LT.
The stereo outs can be treated just as 2 seperate mono outs, and you get instrumentation separation by panning a mixer channel hard left or right.

The way I use it to record drums with 4 mics - I plug the mics into channels 1-4. Hard pan channels 1 & 3 left, hard pan channels 2 & 4 right. I then send channels 1 & 2 to the Main stereo out, and 3 & 4 to the Group out. I connect the Main & Group outs to the 4 inputs of my Delta 44, and each mic is recorded to a seperate track in Cakewalk.

I could use the inserts or aux outs instead if I wanted, don't really matter.

It's all real time baby
 
Bulls Hit said:
The stereo outs can be treated just as 2 seperate mono outs, and you get instrumentation separation by panning a mixer channel hard left or right.
It's all real time baby
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First off, Thanks to you guys. I appreciate you guys talking the time to explain all this, I have so much to learn. Never thought about that but your right, I guess I can pan the signal for the outs kind of like I use to do with my Taskam 488 portastudio which I still have unfortunately that thing only supports -10db line level. Anyway…

By the way, if I were to ask your opinion: which output would give you the cleanest signal, or I should ask out of the two below which would have the least amount of cross talk?
-The AUX outs?
Or
-The Stereo Out?

I can tell you my MK 488 Taskam four track is horrible as far as cross talk between channels, I’m sure that Yamaha mixer is much better right?

By the way, is this yamaha the only mixer you guys recomend for the price?
I mean maby for 100 bucks more it might be worth getting something with even more tracks these yamahas so I have expantion in the future. but I guess it's not critical either way.
 
I was looking at that behringer ub 2222fx pro, It was kind of hard to compare with all the technical lingo but it looks like a nice mixer also.

Do you think the behringer ub 2222fx pro is a better mixer for $100 bucks more? Doses that even have as many outs? I didn’t see any Balanced XLR outs like on the Yamaha

By the way, speaking of Yamaha, I really like how that 16 channel /FX version has a mid sweep where is the plaine 16 channel doses not but it way more. I found it for around $500 if I remember correct which isn’t too bad for what you get.
 
Personally I'd have no use for fx on a mixer. I don't even use the eqs on my MG12/4. It all depends on what you want to do with it.

I mix & put effects, eq etc. on in the DAW so I want to capture the original dry signal as best I can. Different story if you're going to mix on the mixer.

For me the best things about the yammie are the preamps, the multichannel routing flexibility, and the ability to get the output from the soundcard back into the mixer for control room monitoring, headphones and recording out to a tape deck
 
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